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Post Chairman Maew's 2nd Term

Comments on "Why Thaksin succeeds" (http://2bangkok.com/WhyThaksinsucceeds.shtml)

A reader writes: Personally, my have some ideas why Thaksin wins so many votes;

1. Though Thaksin's so rich and so different from poor people, his project like '1 million Baht fund for each mooban' hit them. Evenif some of these people spend their money for unecessary things, many people think this is the first time that help are offered to these low level people. This has never happened before in the period Democrate Party was the government.

2. For middle class people who have been suffering from the bubble burst in 1997, they don't want the economy system to be back in the hand of Democrat party again.

At that time, when Democrate Party came to be goverment right after the burst, it was widely known that Mr. Tharin Nimmanhemindra, Finance Minister from Democrat Party, had very strict financial policies and strongly supported only financial sector. Many businessmen lose their business cause they can't make any loan from banks to run their own business. I was well proved that Tharin financial thoery and policy went wrong and finally the Democrat had be opposit party.

So now, many people prefer to have goverment who can push GDP grows and help them have better living standard. They get scared of having no job and no money as they used to have. So far, these 4 years of the goverment proves that Thaksin bring them better life. Thought there are a lot of talks about being dictator, but if comparing with Democrat, they prefer to chose him.

Btw, until now, there still be noone in Democrate Party who can be raised as their top cream to run financial and commercial segtors.

3. People get bored of Democrat Party. Why? Because their political activities are undevelped. They still criticize about everything the goverement have done, though have no suggestions what should it be. Young and modern Thai people get tired of this kind of political game. We don't want to have old people of Democrat party to be priminister. Easily imagin what would happen if we should Democrat, surely Banyat would be priminister-eww! His profile has never shown that he would be able to control country effectively, reposively and with creativity. People want PM who would realize and share their sufferings when they are in troubles, not just waiting for report at his home and doing nothing.

At least, I simply believe not only me who, though don't adore TRT, would abruptly turn to choose Thaksin just imagin if we have Banyat as our PM.
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Sorry Khun Hatyai Junction,

You are INSULTING the intelligence of the local people. The same Insults those Thai people who live abroad sicne they were young ... and living for too long so they are OUT OF TOUCH with the local people with scannot go abroad .... -> the same thing which happen to one of Kritsadakorn familyt who live abord for too slogn so when he come back and become the successor of Prince Raphee (the ministor of Justice), the Prince form Kritsadakron family yelled "I CANNOT work with Saimese People!!!!! "
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Khun Hatyai Junction,

You may be right ... but Cynicism has NO Longer has ANY place right now ... Better ask those Cynic to Drink Cyanide so as to forget anything they keep criticism ....
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Khun Hatyai Junction,

Read this comment from Thai people English and you'll see:

ความคิดเห็นที่ 67

To ความคิดเห็นที่ 37,

I wouldn’t worry about how those journalists/experts in other countries (especially in the WEST) said. These experts both domestic and foreign love to use fancy words such as: Human-Right, Dictatorship or Our democracy is going backward (In fact, it would be better for those experts to start worrying about what going on in their own countries).

I have seen so much of theses articles and comments. They are all going in the same pattern. Whatever the Government do, they all seem to be wrong in their point of view. They believe that our government, our leader is not capable of making the right decision. Even when the government did something right, then they said it must be for a wrong reason!

So the government did everything wrong and life of the people continue to improve in the past 4 years. Are we are just lucky or something really gone wrong in the whole thing?

Maybe the answer is just so simple that there are group of people who about to lose the power and control that they have for so long. Surely enough, these are the same people who kept THAILAND struggle to move forward for so long.

It’s time to let it go my friends, you already took too much of everybody share.

As we all see, after a very long wait, the judgment day has come. Yeah! VIVA Thailand.

After this election, I’ve been smiling lately.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Enforcer!
From 2Bangkok/Bangkok Post ....The outcome mirrorred the resounding re-election success 73 years ago of the now-defunct Seri Manangkasila party headed by the former strongman FM Plaek Piboonsongkram.
Also, if the parliamentary democracy was introduced in Thailand in 1932, how on earth would anyone have been able to be re-elected 73 years ago? No, the Post screwed up their history research here....

See http://www.thaiembdc.org/politics/govtment/pmlist.htm
for a list of Thai Prime Ministers. (Note: scroll down for the last entry if you want to know how up-to-date it is... )

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Thai Columnist's Response to Time magazine

Now, I just went to Manager Daily and see the article by Uncle Wattawan

He has sent the followign criticism toward the columnists fo Time magazine

Referring to your feature story on Thailand's Prime Minister Taksin:

Perhaps we Thais needed caffeine.
Ex-PM Chuan Leekpai from the Democrat Party was like Prozac. During his time Thailand was practically sedated. He and his gang avoided making decisions, lest it would shake the security of their government chairs. Even the then-new young bloods, some Oxford-educated, like Apisit Vejjajiva, proved lackluster; worse, another Chuan.

We just might give Taksin another four years … caffeine and all. Then we'll see whether we’re wide awake, full of energy to keep Thailand going; or if we're simply caffeine-poisoned.

But do tell me … if Taksin is caffeine, then what is Bush? [B]Cyanide?[/B]

The Americans must bear Bush; the Thais will probably have to tolerate Taksin. It seems that neither have any choice.

Vattavan Supunpaysaj

Columnist MANAGER ON LINE, Thailand
Vattavan@yahoo.com

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He also quote the late MR Khuekrit Pramote's response toward the meddlesome media when he was PM

“ผมคงทำกรรมเอาไว้มาก เพราะคงไป สังวาส แม่ของพวกมันตั้งแต่ชาติที่แล้ว มาชาตินี้มันก็เลยตามมารุมด่าผมไม่เลิก ! ”

(In my previous life, I may have Fxxked the journalists' Mothers so they come back to give me LOTS of Bad Raps .....)

// --------------------------------------------------------

Furthermore, Uncle Wattawan has criticized Khunying Kalaya Sophnphanit who hs involved in the Les majeste Stickers for political campaigns while lambastign Ajarn Nithi iawsriwongse (the founder of Midnight University) for the strategy "Dog Fights" (voting enough Democrat to fight AGAINST Premeir Thaksin)

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Now, the owners and columnists of Thai Post said they may consider MIOGRATING to otehr countries if they don't want to drink cyanide ....or pesticide ...
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Some news services seem to be announcing that the final official results are now in, but The Nation's page is still saying just 86%? Anyway, here's exit poll vs. the current situation:

TRT 399 vs 376
Dems 80 vs 96
Chart Thai 20 vs 26
Mahachon 1 vs 2

So the exit poll was TRT-slanted, but the difference isn't big enough to matter since the TRT total is still >350.
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Most urban middle-class Thais are right-leaning!

Most of Urban Middle class Thailanders are Right Leaning!

by Kasem Sirisamphan

Premier Thaksin has recognized this FACT so TRT successfully
won hte election TWICE - esp in BKK.


This double victory might have something to do with his populist
policies to attract those grassroot people as well as urban and rural
underclass.


However, Permier Thaksin also manager to capture the sentiments of the
middleclass and urban Thai people who are NATURALLY right wing
supporters (ME Too!). This is one of the contributions for TRT's
landslide victory.


Look at what Premeur Thaksin's Saturday Morning radio talks and you'll
see lots of right wing agenda whcih PLEASE the urban Thai people (the
growing majority) -> Anyone who OPPOSE the color scheme on the 3
troublesome provinces are considred "PULO Sympathizers - Traitors of
the Motherland!" -> whether they are Buddhists, Muslim or Chistian.
Furthermore, he does NOT give a DAMN on the criticism from Muslim
countries about brutal treatments on 3 troublesome provinces whcih also
PLEASE the urban Thai people who happen to be right wibng supporters.


Right Leaning is all about the conservative doctrine whcih empahsize
the National stability and National security over the individual
freedom. Those conservative pepople are strictly Nationalists. Any
liberal or centerists who support human rights are a bunch of
troblemakers who have sell out the National Security to Please the
Imperialists.


The current consavative atmosphere could become ultraconservative
even though it has NOT reached the level of Ultraconservatives as those
right wing thugs durign the October 6, 1976 masscare yet.


Even the venerable Abbot Koon Parasuttho of Wat Banrai praised Premier
Thaksin that "You are the best PM I have very seen
since Strongman Sarit Thanarat!"


Even middle rank Thai bankers who have MBA degree said we LOST
protection after the Military have been REMOVED from the political
scene since 1992, and his HERO is Strongman Sarit Thanarat (Strongman
Thanom Kittikhajorn is TOO Weak for him)... Premier Thaksin is the ONLY
good substitution for Strongman Sarit Thanarat.


This kind of mindset has become the Nature of Urban and middlecalss
Thai people.


After the criticism about Permier Thaksin who is goign to fill the
Shoes of PM Lee Kuan Yoo and Dr. M. from Dr. Jarmsak Pinthong,
many urban Thai couples have told Dr. Jermsak back that


"They badly want to see Premier Thaksin becoming the next Dr M. and PM
Lee Kuan Yoo ... to Get rid Of the Street hawkers even he may have to
BOIL and COOK those street hawkers on the FRYING WOKS full of lard or
cookign oil when we wear Village Scout uniforms!"


Thai PM Must be ONLY Strongman! NOT thsoe Whimpy like Ai Chuan of
Democrat!


Democrat has made a FATAL mistake by asking for 201 PM to check Premier
Thaksin, so the conservative voters have thrown the supports to Premier
Thaksin to ELIMINATE any obstacle for Premier Thaksin.


The conservative Thai people have 2 things to FEAR:
1) The Capital City (the country) under the Foreign Yokes


Durign the 1997 Economic Melthdown, the begging for the helps
form IMF is the sure sign of the Lost of Capital city to IMF at the
devastate level as the Lost of Ayutthaya on August 7, 1569
and April 7, 1767. An the 11 Laws Imposed by IMF during Premier Chuan
Lookphai's term is the "Acts of Abominal Slavery" from the Slave owners
(IMF).


Khun Thaksin and advisers have found the way to capture the voters by
sayign that the 11 Slavish law will be NULLIFIED when he has become a
premier .. However, Premier Thaksin stil have NOT abolished those 11
laws yet and the tried to find the way to explain the public abotu
that ...


2) The lost of the Territories even the size of pinhead.


After the Kruseh Incident on April 28, 2004, the conservative Thai said
is a sure sign that thsoe PULO and BRN (with Support form Malaysian
Government) have BRAINWASHED those Muslim youths to attack Thai
military forces in the South as the way to secede 3 prvinces to become
the 14th state of Malaysia (KL and La Buan NOT Counted). Even the mild
suggestion form Dr. M. abotu the autonomy of 3 provinces have CONVINCED
conservative Thai people that Dr. M. and Malysian government are the
ones who act behind the scene of Krueseh Attack as well as the Southern
Insurgency.


Now, Premier Thaksin said so long he is the PM of Thailand, thsoe SOBs
would be forbidden from seceding 3 provinces form Thailand.
This PM Thaksin's speech have ATTRACTED Overwheming supports from
conservative middle class Thai people in BKK and major cities as well
as those conservative forces in suburbs and rural areas.


Therefore, Premier Thaksin have to PLEASE the right wign agenda as well
as the grass root agenda to gain political bases.


Ref: http://www.manager.co.th/Daily*/View...94800000*32762
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This is a very instructive article for foreigners to read to get a better idea of prevailing views. Thanks for posting it, Wisarut. The mood of the populace is often misjudged by foreigners who base their opinions only on what is in the English-language press...
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Chairman Maew's 2nd Term

Now, the French Cartoonist who is drawing satirical cartoon in the Nation has drawn the p[icture of Premier Thaksin as "Chairman Maew" who raised his left hand while his right hand is grabbing a money bag ... due to the fact that the power of Premier Thaksin is cloing to the level of Chairman Mao Tse Tung!

He also show the satirical cartoons abotu Premiere Thaksin that he could checkmate the Opposition by having the whole chessboard with black pieces while the Democrat has ONLY the white King. Furthermore, his powerful Muay Thai kicking has effectively CHOP the leg of Khun Banyat ...

Furthermore, Premier Thaksin has rejigged Democracy Monumnet into the Rocket whcih has been shot out of the world ...
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sounds hillarious...
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The Terror Phases have yet to come

Taksin 1 = The Long March
Taksin 2 = The Great Leap Forward
Taksin 3 = The Cultural Revolution
Taksin 4 = The Gang of Four

And then perhaps Dong Si Choi 1
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^ scary! Always thought that Taksin should be called the 'Paramount Leader'!
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If the original is anything to go by, it is 'er indoors and her chronies we really have to worry about. Or is it the sister in this case?; who seems to be steering the anti-Sanoh campaign. Maybe we should relabel Sanoh as Thailand's Chang Kai Shek. And the Wang Nam Yen Faction as the KMT; who will eventually be forced off the 'mainland' into their Isaan redoubt version of Taiwan. Does this also mean that Sanan & Chaovalit will go down in history as scheming eunuchs at the Imperial Court? Is Khun Chuan the Last Emperor Pu Yi? Will Southern Thailand become a puppet state Manchuokuo?
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Pa Sanoh is mure like iether Lin Biao or Pu Yi ... and Wang Nam Yen
is Manchukou though ....

Jiang Qing is the one I don't need to name - the Pheonix behind
the Dragon Throne.

For the Chiang Kai Chek -> It's Chuan Leekphai though .... and
Democrat is Definitely KMT usign the South as their Taiwan while
nurshereing Pattani as their version of Tibet & Xing Jiang... while
gaining support from both Yankee and Arabian countries.

Sanan and Chawalit ... Yeah Court Eunuches are the best description
for both.
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