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Yappofloyd
22-06-05, 11:21 PM
This is taken from another thread on skyscraper forum as I couldn't remember/find if there was a thread on the subject here somewhere...

I'm not normally one to post the articles but todays Nation has an update ,with some graphics, of the BMA Smart Signs that we were discussing earlier. So getting away from the micro of Asoke to the macro of new BMA 'smart' transport intiatives....

TRAFFIC: Hi-tech projects to tackle congestion
Published on March 14, 2005 The Nation

‘Intelligent traffic system’ includes electronic road signs, GPS-equipped buses, taxi stands linked to call centres. Bangkok’s roads and public transport systems are to benefit from five high-technology projects this year, collectively called “the intelligent traffic system”. Its aim, once more, is to relieve traffic congestion.

Before the end of the year, intelligent traffic signs will inform drivers about bad traffic areas, electronic screens will tell bus commuters how long they must wait for the next bus, and people will be able to call taxis by pushing a button.

Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) deputy governor Samart Ratchapolsitte said some of the new technologies were imported and others were developed locally, but Bangkok would be the first city in the world using them all together. “The aim is to help Bangkok people spend less time on the roads,” he said.

Forty “intelligent traffic signs” would be installed in front of expressways and important intersections by June. They would provide real-time information on graphic maps, informing drivers about crowded roads and traffic accidents.
Samart said 150 “intelligent” taxi stands would be constructed. These would be stainless structures looking much like bus stops. However, when people were waiting for taxis, they would display a red light visible to nearby taxis.

If there were no taxis passing at the time, people would be able to press a button and the taxi call centre would direct a taxi to the stand. The would-be passenger would be shown the taxi number and the expected time of pick-up.

Samart said the third “intelligent” system would involve bus stops with high-technology information signs. A pilot project would be set up by July.
Large LCD display screens at these stops would provide information on which buses were arriving and how long people would have to wait for each bus.
A Global Positioning System unit would be installed on every bus to send real time information to the bus stop display via satellite.

Samart said the BMA had invited private companies to invest in the first three projects. Each of the structures involved would have advertising space that the companies could let or sell at a profit. Part of this income would go to the BMA.

The final two projects would be funded by the BMA itself.

He said that by October, the BMA would spend Bt226 million for two intelligent parking buildings at its Ratchathewi and Prakhanong district offices to enable people to leave their cars and use public transport.

The parking buildings would use smart cards. Drivers would identify themselves at a lift, which would lift their car to a space in the building. Upon their return they would use their smart card to instruct the elevator to search for their car and bring it down to the street.

Samart said the technology would prevent car thefts and encourage more people to use public transport. Each of the buildings would accommodate 100 cars and fees would be cheaper than those charged at nearby private parking facilities.

Finally, 34 “crosswalks” would be installed in Bangkok streets over the next four months at a cost of Bt30 million. Samart said pedestrians crossing the road only need to press a button to activate traffic lights featuring countdown digits as well as an audible signal for the blind.

“The intelligent traffic systems will provide comfort to drivers and mass transit commuters as well as promoting the use of mass transportation systems such as buses and the Skytrain,” he said.

Chatrarat Kaewmorakot
The Nation

The two 'smart' auotmated carpacks have been shelved but has anyone seen the 'smart' traffic signs which were due to commence operations in June? Also, has anyone seen any preparations of sites for any of the 'smart' bustops?

jpatokal
23-06-05, 10:07 AM
The only "smart" traffic sign I know of is at the Din Daeng end of the Uttaraphimuk (Don Muang) Elevated Tollway when connecting to the Second Stage Expressway. It has a pretty map of the expressway system and lights to show the level of congestion, but unfortunately I've never actually seen the thing turned on...

The Enforcer!
24-06-05, 09:56 AM
I could save the BMA lots of cash- just put a fixed sign along Sathorn Road painted with the words 'Traffic Jammed'!

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ncr
24-06-05, 06:47 PM
Or even better - big signs proclaiming "SNAFU" (or the Thai equivalent) all over Bangkok......

*LOL*

Yappofloyd
26-08-05, 01:06 AM
So the first 'Smart' Traffic sign was activated outside the Bangkok Bank building in Silom road last week.

Has anyone spotted any others being installed elsewhere? What about the so-called Smart Bus stops?

The Enforcer!
26-08-05, 10:57 AM
So the first 'Smart' Traffic sign was activated outside the Bangkok Bank building in Silom road last week.
I have now been past it four times and guess what ... it hasn't been working!

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Yappofloyd
27-08-05, 04:53 PM
I have now been past it four times and guess what ... it hasn't been working!

The Enforcer!
Not surprised, BMA probably has not yet activated the system as there seems to be the Silom rd sign only or there is probably a lot of glitches to be resolved.

Yappofloyd
27-08-05, 05:51 PM
Another aspect of the BMA 'smart' transport projects. however. this one seems pretty useless to me as normally there are copious amounts of taxis waiting for a customers, usually parking in the bus stop area, esp. outside places like shopping centres.

City launches first 'smart' taxi stand SUPOJ WANCHAROEN (BKK Post 27/08/05)
The first "smart" taxi stand has gone into operation in the city.
Bangkok Governor Apirak Kosayodhin yesterday chaired the project launch at a hypermarket on Phahon Yothin road. The scheme is part of the city's smart traffic system, and is intended to enhance commuter convenience and keep taxi drivers from wasting fuel by driving around town looking for passengers.

Instead of hailing a taxi on the pavement, a passenger steps into an arch-roofed stand and pushes a green button. A signal is transmitted to a control centre which will ask taxi service providers to dispatch a taxi to the stand. As the passenger waits, information will appear on a monitor screen giving the licence plate number of the coming taxi and estimated arrival time.

Mr Apirak said every taxi will be installed with a Global Positioning System (GPS) device. This will enable passengers who leave their belongings in taxi cabs to track down the vehicles. The system covers the installation of traffic signs, smart bus stops and pedestrian crossings.

Deputy Bangkok Governor Samart Ratchapolsitte said ESFAME Engineering has been hired to run the project under a three-year contract. Across the city, 150 stands will be set up by November. Five more will be put up this month.

White Nancy
29-08-05, 04:02 AM
Can't wait to see this one in action! :)

The Enforcer!
29-08-05, 08:33 AM
This will enable passengers who leave their belongings in taxi cabs to track down the vehicles.
LOL!

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Yappofloyd
03-09-05, 06:44 PM
Would be nice to see a photo of the 'smart' bus stop is anyone has the time. A great and overdue intiative to help long suffering bus travellers.

GOVERNOR'S FIRST YEAR / OPINION POLL Smart bus stop gets test run on Rama 1 (BKK Post, 03/09/05)

Bangkok's so-called smart bus stop is being given a test run. After a one-week trial the bus stop, located on Rama I road in the Siam Square area, will be fully operational. Equipped with a Global Positioning System (GPS) device and display monitors, the bus stop will alert waiting passengers to approaching buses and show their estimated arrival time as well as traffic conditions in the surrounding areas.

Bangkok Governor Apirak Kosayodhin said if the trial is successful, the city will proceed with the planned installation of 10 others. By the end of this year Bangkok will have 150 smart bus stops, he said. The city plans to install a total of 200 smart bus stops in the six inner districts of Ratchathewi, Pathum Wan, Bang Rak, Pom Prap Sattru Phai, Dusit and Samphanthawong.

So far, 86 buses are equipped with GPS devices. A total of 2,000 buses will eventually have them. The city and the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority, operator of the city's buses, will conduct a survey to rate the scheme with the findings to be released in 60 days. Mr Apirak denied that the launch of the smart bus stop was to mark the first anniversary of his work as governor. He launched a smart taxi stand last week.

An opinion poll out yesterday shows city folk are still unhappy with the governor's progress on traffic issues. The smart traffic system is one of Mr Apirak's campaign promises. Mr Apirak said the two schemes were now ready to implement, after technical delays.

The Enforcer!
04-09-05, 11:24 AM
Bangkok's so-called smart bus stop is being given a test run. After a one-week trial the bus stop, located on Rama I road in the Siam Square area, will be fully operational.
Still say it is cheaper and more effective to paint 'WAIT' on a board!

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jpatokal
13-12-05, 02:45 PM
Is the Nation (http://nationmultimedia.com/2005/12/13/business/index.php?news=business_19402130.html) practicing sycophancy for a change, or is the following just so bitterly sarcastic it actually looks like praise?
To the delight of Bangkokians, the [rail master plan] investment project showed uninterrupted progress during Suriya’s reign. In an act of close cooperation, the Finance Ministry shouldered the burden of buying back the concessions of Bangkok Mass Transit System Plc (BTS) and Bangkok Metro Plc (BMCL) for the existing Skytrain and subway systems.

GWR
14-12-05, 11:56 AM
You know for all this talk about the divide between the 'country bumpkin' politics of say Barnharn & Chaovalit and the supposedly more urbane TRT-style politics of say Suriya, Bangkokians have shown that they are just as easily duped as their less-educated country cousins. I suppose they believed that majority government would put an end to the factional squabbling.

I think you can depend on your instinct that 'The Nation' is just being sarcastic.

The Enforcer!
14-12-05, 02:31 PM
Is the Nation (http://nationmultimedia.com/2005/12/13/business/index.php?news=business_19402130.html) practicing sycophancy for a change, or is the following just so bitterly sarcastic it actually looks like praise?
The latter!

The Enforcer!

Wisarut
15-12-05, 10:38 AM
A Biiter Sarcasm as usual from the Nation INDEED :p ;) :rolleyes: :cool: :D :)