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GWR
07-04-05, 12:12 AM
http://www.sgtowns.com/mt-archives/bkk_klong_map.gif
Associated article ironically show this map was originally discovered by following links from 2bangkok.com:-
http://www.sgtowns.com/mt-archives/001118.html
The map was originally found on the following german language site. I haven't yet found the original, but this site has some walking tour maps that are also of interest:-
http://www.hdamm.de/reise/rtt0-idx.php

New Road was Bangkok's first purposely-built road, as previously most traffic was water-borne. Suggested reading: Ian Morson's 'Four Hundred Years: The British & The Thais' (1998, Nai Suk's Editions, distributed by DK Today & available at most local bookshops with a limited range of English language books). Just finishing this one. Ian's writing style is a trifle unusual (I'm hardly in a position to criticise!!), but the content alone is interesting.

Also written by Ian, a book entitled something like 'Phuket, Penang & Adelaide - The Connection'. This one about Penang's founder, Francis Light, who had previously resided in Phuket (Then Ujong Slang or 'Junk Ceylon') for approx 15 years. Yes, the writing style and punctuation is again a tad strange. In fairness, I suspect the proofreader & typesetter share some of the responsibility for this.

dick
08-04-05, 07:37 PM
In Amsterdam we also have a kind of "Klongs", the wellknown 'Canals". In combination with tram and train, besides the cultural subjects, it's a interesting city. I have just completed a tramway/railway/subway map of Amsterdam. If some members are interested I will send the map for the forum.
Also of Rotterdam, with all the ports and the tramway's around, I have maps in stock with the situation in past and present, available for the forum. This year the tram of Rotterdam is 100 years old.

chabaa
17-04-05, 04:19 AM
I just joined this forum and found this thread with a question mark on where this map comes from.
Its taken out from a book from Steve van Beek, a dutch, who lives in Bangkok since more than 30 years and has written several books.
This map is from "Bangkok - Einst und Jetzt" resp. "Bangkok - Then and Now" from page 28. AB Publications, 2001. It has been published in english (1999) and german as far as I know.
In this book there are very interesting and useful old and new photographs, mostly attached to each other to see the change of Bangkok.

GWR
18-04-05, 12:23 AM
Steve Van Beek has been involved in a lot of the local content books sold at places like Asia Books. I've actually thumbed through that book a few times, but usually the next plate of rice takes a higher priority. I'd certainly like to own it. Any chance of Chabaa or any other poster scanning it. Preferably below 160Kb.
Check out this Photosite and click the 'upload new photos'. I'll receive notification and will place someplace to view. Or you can put a linked image in your own post from your own photosite. MESSAGE me if you encounter any problems:-
http://pub8.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=633867102

In this METROPOLIS Forum you will find some Bangkok Zoning Maps if you go to the bottom of that forum thread page and tinker with the FROM THE dropdown to get the BEGINNING item. Then press SHOW THREADS and all the older threads will appear. Doing the same on the NATIONAL thread page will produce a thread on the Dept of Town & Country Planning.

GWR
28-07-05, 12:22 AM
I have taken the liberty of reposting Airlana's contribution on this subject from:-

http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/forum/showthread.php?t=1009

Here's a couple of old maps of BKK with some detail of klongs.

This first one has the caption:

"Perhaps the first unstylised map of Bangkok. Although this reproduction is poor, being based on a poor copy on transfer paper of the original, a reasonably good general impression of the city circa 1870 is conveyed and the annotations, where readable, yield a considerable amount of information available from no other source"

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/...kokMap1870s.jpg

The same map in large size 1.2MB

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/...gkokMap1870.jpg

And another map, this one circa 1900

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/...kokMap1900s.jpg

unfortunately the place names are in Thai and it's difficult to see much detail
in a small size picture.

A large version 4.2MB is at

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/...gkokMap1900.jpg

With a little effort one can differentiate the klongs from roads.

[If you need a copy of this map, please do so now.
I've only limited space at this web and 4.2MB takes up a fair chunk,
so will be deleting it in a few weeks - airlana]