FreightConnections:Surplus SRT land for industry?

[DR.WANGEMANN]

Dear Khun Wisarut,

this time I do have some questions on goods connections on the SRT network.I've seen quite a lot of connections on the network,but I do believe that there will be more of those connections than I've seen.Maybe with your kind help and the help of other railway enthusiasts it would be possible to compile a complete list of all goods connections,e.g.like the station list and the list of the tunnels.This list would surely help Mr.Dick van der Spek also to draw a very exact map of the complete SRT network.I've seen some of the goods connetions,some of them are mentioned in the graphic timetables or on maps and also the working timetables do show of course the destination of goods trains,but what is hidden behind the destination of some unknown places?
First of all I would like to give you the information of what I've got:
NORTHERN LINE:
THA RUA Km 102.73 east of station,to the South,shown in
graphic timetable.
BAN MO Km 108.78 east of station,to the North and South,
shown in graphic timetable .
BAN MI Km 166.22 west of station,to the North,shown in
graphic timetable,quarry?
CHONG KHAE Km 180.20 west of station,to the South,shown in
graphic timetable.
PHON THONG Km 188.65 west of the station,to the South,shown
in graphic timetable,cement fabrication
plant?
PHICHIT Km 346.79 to the East,shown on the Thai railways
map as oil depot.
WANG KAPHI Km 476.82 east of station,to the North,shown in
graphic timetable.
MAE MO Km 609.16 east of station,to the South,shown in
graphic timetable,coal-field?
NAKHON LAMPANG Km 642.29 west of line,to the South,shown on the
Thai railways map as oil depot.
The following destinations are served by goods trains,so it would be nice to know what is really there:
CHIANG MAI Trains 601,602,641,642,647,648
BUNG PHRA Trains 631,632,633,634,635,636,637,638,639,640
NAKHON LAMPANG Trains 643,644,651,652,673,674
PHITSANULOK Trains 645,646
NAKHON SAWAN Trains 655,656
MAE MO Trains 603,604
PHON THONG Trains 625,626
LAMPHUN Trains 693,694

NORTHEASTERN LINE:
BAN POKPAEK Km 107.15 to the West,oil depot,seen on my own.
NONG BUA Km 119.27 concrete sleeper fabrication plant,seen
on my own
MAP KABAO Km 134.30 cement fabrication plant,seen on my own.
HIN LAP Km 144.29 quarry,seen on my own.
LAM CHI Km 412.00 north of station,to the East,cement
fabrication plant,seen on my own.
BU RUSI Km 428.60 quarry,seen on my own.
HUAI KHAYUNG Km 553.99 cement fabrication plant,seen on my own.

BAN CHONG TAI Km 128.80 east of station,to the East,seen on my
own,cement fabrication plant?

SAMRAN Km 460.71 oil depot,seen on my own.
NONG KHON KWANG Km 565.40 oil depot,seen on my own.
The following goods trains run on the NORTHEASTERN LINE:
UBON RATCHATHANI Trains 501,502,527,528,541,542,543,544,595
PAK CHONG Trains 501,502,591,593,596
KAENG KHOI JUNCTION Train 502
BAN CHONG TAI Trains 521,522,523,524,525,526,527,528,529,530
MAP KABAO Trains 531,532,533,534,571,572,573,574,2003,2004
KHON KAEN Trains 531,532,533,534,535,536,2001,2002
BAN POKPAEK Trains 537,538,543,544,641,642,673,674
UDON THANI Trains 529,530,538,591,592,593,594,2003,2004
HIN LAP Trains 564,565,566,567,581,582,583,584,591,592,
593,594,595,596,693,694
NONG KHON KWANG Trains 591,592,593,594
HUAI KHAYUNG Train 595
BUNG PHRA Trains 633,635,636,638
SAMRAN Trains 533,534
NONG KHAI Trains 561,562

EASTERN LINE:
HUA TAKHE Km 30.91 to the North,shown in graphic timetable.
PRENG Km 46.50 TPI Cement,seen on my own.

BANG LAMUNG KM 144.08 oil depot,seen on my own.

The following goods trains run on the EASTERN LINE:
BANG LAMUNG Trains 531,532,533,534,651,652,655,656,658,660
MAP TA PUT Trains 535,536,541,542,643,644
PRENG Trains 564,565,566,567
LAEM CHABANG Trains 633,635,636,638,841,842,846,849,850,851,
852,857,858,861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,
870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,881,
882,883,884
MAE NAM Trains 801,802,803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,
811,812
HUA TAKHE Trains 841,842,845,846,849,850,851,852,857,858,
861,862,863,864,865,866,867,868,869,870,871,872,
873,874,875,876,877,878,879,880,883,884
KABIN BURI Trains 813,814
ARANYAPRATHET Trains 813,814
MAKKASAN Trains 821,822,1003,1004,1005,1006,1011,1012
CHACHOENGSAO JUNCTION Trains 1003,1004

SOUTHERN LINE:

SA KOSI NARAI Km 73.65 to the west,sugar fabrication plant,seen
on my own.

KHAO THAMON Km 160.32 to the west,shown in graphic timetable.
BAN CHA-AM Km 187.06 to the west,shown in graphic timetable,
lime stone?
HUAI MUT Km 669.68 to the west,shown in graphic timetable.

THI WANG Km 765.57 to the north,cement fabrication plant,
seen on my own.
The following goods trains run on the SOUTHERN LINE:
HAT YAI JUNCTION Trains 701,702,703,704,707,708,753,754,767,768,
771,772
SUNGAI KOLOK Trains 703,704
NA MUANG Train 703
WAT KHUAN MIT Train 703
PADANG BESAR Trains 707,708,763,764,771,772,779,780,781,782
KHUAN NIANG Trains 721,722
BAN SONG Trains 765,766
THUNG SONG JUNCTION Trains 765,766,767,768,775,776,777,778
THI WANG Trains 777,778
BAN CHA-AM Trains 717,718
NA SAN Trains 723,724
SURAT THANI Trains 723,724,733,734
KHAO CHUM THONG JUNCTION Trains 775,776
BANG SUE JUNCTION Trains 501,502,521,522,523,524,525,526,561,562,
571,572,573,574,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,
601,602,603,604,625,626,701,702,711,712,717,718,
721,722,733,734,753,754,779,780,781,782,801,802,
803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,821,822,
881,882,1011,1012

Also I'm interested in the fact why and when the goods service between Ban Plu Ta Luang and Sattahip was suspended,as there is no such service is shown in the recent working timetables?
Another still unanswered question is about the track extension beyond Khiri Ratthanikhom,the branch line line to the west from Ban Thung Pho Junction on the Southern Line.I do know from a travel report that there are still tracks for about 22 km,but only tracks or is there also a never used station on that section?Has anyone visited that line in the recent years and knows about the extension?
That's it for the moment from Berlin.
All the best from

Volker

[The Enforcer!]

I notice that three or four times a day a oil tanker train and once a day a cargo container train cross Rama IV road to/from Makkasan.

The Enforcer!

[Wisarut]

Hi Uncle Volker,

The followings are the responses from Thai railfan after I post your QUESTIONS about the cargo trains

1) Wang Kraphi used to have a sugar mill nearby ... However, the sugar mill is now OUT OF BUSINESS and they have removed all the narrow gauge track (2 feet 6 inches) to Wang Kraphi Sugar Mill .... These narrow gauge track are from Bang Buathong Railway and Phraphutthabat Railway (both went out of business on July 16, 1942) ... The concrete reinforced roads belonged to Wang Kraphi Municipal are the replacement of thsoe narrow gauge tracks.

2) The railway track from Mae Moh station to Mae Moh Lignite Mine has been removed ... only a few stuff left over there. Ths probably to to the restriction of Lignite consumption which has already RUINED the environment around mae Moh Lignite Mine and Mae Moh Power Station.

3) Many Maps have kept the narrow gauge track from Rai Oy to Na Yang even thoug the have bene removed from MANY years. Some Maps EVEN keep the map of Hua WSai - Tha Tako track even though it has been replaced by the local highway.

4) Bueng Phra station has an oil depot to keep the crude oil form Sirikit Oil Field. Those crude oil kept in Buang Phra will be transport to Bang Chak Refinery and Thai Oil Refinery at Sri Racha.

5) Nakhon Sawan station has a natural gas Depot transported from from Bang Lamung [a district near Pattaya -> the Gas terminal to receive the natural gas tapped form the Gulf of Thailand]

6) Phon Thong station has the cement depot for Jalaprathan cement PCL.

7) Phisanulok station has an oil depot fro the daily oil tran between Ban Pok Paek station (a village in Saraburi) to Phitsanulok

8) Nakhon Lampang - very important cargo station -> has natural gas depot fro the natural gas tran from Bang Lamung to Nakhon Lampang, oil depot for the daily train from Ban pok Paek (the main oil depot near Kaeng Khoi) to Nakhon Lampang. Nakhon Lampang is also a terminal for the cargo train as well.

9) Lamphun - has a container yard for the Norhtenr industrial Estate along with the tobacco from Tobacco Monopoly to be transport to Laem Chabang Deep Sea Port.

10) Chiang Mai - has a cargo terminal and oil terminal for oil train from Ban Pok Paek.

11) Hat Yai Junction -> Train 701,702,703,704,707,708,753,754,
767,768,771,772 are the cargo trains -> with Container trains, the good bogies, and the low side bogie for carrying steel.
It used to have Siam Cement Train but now it is GONE. Now, Siam Cement bogies have been attached along with other goods bogies.

12) Sugei Kolok -> Train 703/704 - good trains to/from Malaysia.

13) Namuang + Wat Kuan Meed -> terminal for quarry bogies alogn with Train 703 to Sugei Kolok. However, the regular termianl for quarry bogie alogn with train 703 is at Chana station .... at sometimes at Wat kuan Meed.
Chana has 2 passing loop while Wat kuan Meed has 3 passing loops

14) Padang besar - Train 707,708,763,764,771,772,779,780,
781,782 -> container trains, Steel train, and good trains to Port Klang and Singapore.

15) Kuan Nian -> Trains 721,722 -> TPI Cement Train
Ban Song -> Trains 765,766 -> Gypsum Train to Malaysia via Padang besar -> used Low-side wagon.

16) Thung Song -> Trains 765,766,767,768,775,776,777,778
All are container trains along with the good trains

17) Thee Wang -> Trains 777,778 Mostly Siam cement Train -> with good trains atached.

18) Ban Cha Am -> Trains 717,718 Jalaprathan cement Train
Na Sarn -> Trains 723,724 TPI cement Train

19) Surat Thani Trains 723,724,733,734 Contianer trains and other goods trains.

20) Khao chumthogn Junction -> 775,776 very strange general cargo train -> probably for the good to/grom Nakhon Srithammarat. This must be the old one which are OUTDATED.
In the past (the days of steam traction), theere were shuttle mixed train to Nakhon Srithammarat to Khao Chum Thong Junciton. ... However, they have attached /datached the good bogies on the local train -> Nakhon Srithammarat - Yala.


21) Bang Sue - Trains 501,502,521,522,523,524,525,526,
561,562, 571,572,573,574,581,582,583,584,585,586,587,588,
601,602,603,604,625,626,701,702,711,712,717,718,
721,722,733,734,753,754,779,780,781,782,801,802,
803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,821,822,
881,882,1011,1012 The Main terminal for Cargo trains to/from BKK.

22) The 22-km rail beyond Khirirat nikhon -> very strange indeed ... because the survey by Thai railfan has shown
that there is NO rail beyond Khirirat Nikhom at all. it is
probably the temprary rail heading to Ban Takhun but
the low number of passenger has discouraged SRT from
building the permanent rail further.

[Tower 43]

Volker and K. Wisarut ,

Thanks for posting this information!

One comment on Chiang Mai from my observation. You list Trains 601,602,641,642,647 and 648. The couple of times I was in Chiang Mai in the late 1990's for a few days there was only one goods train a day that brought oil and cargo up from Nakhon Lampang. Most of the time the oil depot was switched using one of the locomotives used on the passenger trains. The goods traffic appeared to be just two or three cars a day and my recollection is that it was mostly lumber. I cannot imagine that business has picked up so much to require 3 goods trains each way. I did not observe any other goods business at stations between Nakhon Lampang and Chiang Mai.

There are two trains listed for Lamphun numbers 693 and 694. There is not much activity at Lamphun that could not be handled by the one goods train to Chiang Mai every day that I observed.

I find it interesting that Kharot does not list goods trains. I spent many days observing trains at Kharot and there were still a few goods trains that terminated there in the late 1990's. Those trains were also switched (sorted) and then dispatched to Nongkhai and Ubonratchathani. The SRT lost the oil terminal business in the late 1990's due to the new pipeline.

I am somewhat suspicious of the large number of goods trains that are listed by the SRT. Is it possible that this listing is nothing more than a paper schedule in the event business picks up this is what we can do.

[DR.WANGEMANN]

Dear Khun Wisarut,dear The Enforcer and dear Tower 43,

thanks to all of you who have given the answers on my request.Nevertheless there are still so many questions open,so again I have to tell exactly what I want and for what purposes.As you probably already know Mr.Dick van der Spek is planning to publish a very exact and detailed Railway Map of Thailand,maybe in several sheets in a quite big scale.So for that reason it would be absolutely important to show also all goods connections on the SRT which are known by someone.Maybe the Thai railfans of rotfaithai.com could also help us to compile this map and give their local information.This Thailand Railway Map is even just the foundation stone of a much bigger project that Mr.van der Spek and I have in my mind,as there is the idea to compile a detailed TRACK MAP of the SRT which will show all the tracks.Please don't tell us that this would be impossible to do,it can be done with all the help of everyone.We do believe that a lot of railway enthusiasts are spreaded all over Thailand and what they can do is to collect the necessary information at their residences,draw the stations at their resident places and just send those drawings to the E-Mail addresses of Mr.van der Spek or to my E-Mail address.Of course the best thing would be if someone would have very good contacts to the headquarters of the SRT and would have the chance to copy the surely in stock maps of all major stations,that would avoid a lot of work for everyone of us,but who knows the right person at the SRT?
To answer the goods trains reply by Tower 43,of course there are a lot of the goods trains shown in the working timetables just what we call in German "Demand goods trains",as on my last trip from Bangkok to Chiang Mai and also from Surat Thani to Bangkok,both with the EXP SP DRC ("Sprinter")during daytime,only about 25% of the goods trains were en route ,not the total as shown in the respective working timetables.
Again to Khiri Ratthanikhom:In the 2.bangkok page of April,the 20th 2004 there was an article with the title"Tales of obscure SRT stations"from an Ian and Khun Reiner Zimmermann,both visited Khiri,but Khun Reiner wrote that the line extends behind the buffers of Khiri another 20km and wrote that he visited the end at Ban Thakun.What he didn't write was what he really found at the lake,just another buffer or a passing loop,surely not used,but with or without any unused station?Of course it's really curious that this line extends up to Ban Khanun and what surprises me is the fact that there might be unused stations at Ga Pao Nua,Ga Pao Tai and also at Phra Sang,as shown on map 55 of the good Thailand Highway Map,distributed by Autoguide.I can't imagine that the 20km extension to Ban Khanun was built without any intermediate station.The best solution would be for someone who's realy interested in walking to walk the whole way down the line to the "real"end to see what is really hidden there and maybe also to take some nice photos of the secrets of that line.
Again my great request:Please give us the necessary information for the planned maps and we'll do then the necessary work!
Goodbye from cool Berlin from

Volker

[Wisarut]

Khun Tower 43, where is "Kharot" station? I have not seen this station in the list of Thai railway station at all ... probably, this station is GONE.

Uncle VOlkere, that section from Ban Takhun to Khirirat Nikhom has been sunk in Chiaw Lan Dam (Now Ratchaprapha dam) ... never recovered ....

[Wisarut]

Northern Line cargo stations

Bueng Phra Station
1) Crude oil from Lad Krabue - Opposite ot the Station
2) TPI Cement Silo - Norht of station near the level crossing
3) SHELL and CALTEX oil depot - next to TPI Silo

Phitsanulok Station
PTT oil Depot, South of Phitsanulok station - behind Phuttha Shinnarat hospital (the main hospital of Phitsanulok)

Oil Train 645 Arriving Phitsanulok at 08:40 AM - cut some
oil bogies at Phisanulok (6-12 bogies).
Oil Train 646 Departing Phisanulok at 03:40 PM - get the oil bogies back (6-12 bogies).

Phitsanulok station used to have Cement Depot but it has closed down for abotu 10 years.

Nakhon Sawan - Natural Gas
Paknam Pho - used to be rice ... but now no longer in business
after beign downgraded to STOP.
Lampang - Natural Gas
Sila At - the locomotive changing station aod refuel station.

Chiang Mai Terminal

Mostly Oil Depot and the products from Northern
Industrial Estate to
Trains 601 Arriving Chiang mai at 11:20 PM
Trains 602 departing Chiang mai at NOON (Next Day)
Trains 641 Arriving Chiang mai at 03:35 PM
Trains 642 departing Chiang mai at 09:00 PM
Trains 647 Arriving Chiang mai at 07:15 PM
Trains 648 departing Chiang mai at 05:10 PM(Next Day)


Lamphun - Cement
Mae Moh - Lignite from Mae Moh Mine and ash from Mae Moh Power station - raw materail for Cement.

Northeastern cargo stations
Ubon Ratchathanee terminal:

1) PTT Oil Depot - opposite to the main station. If you turn your face to the route to BKK, it will be on your right hand.

2) ESSO oil depot - the left of the main track ... far form the main station -> to BKK, just before the via duct

3) SHELL oil depot - the left of the main track ... far form the main station -> to BKK, just before the via duct ... next to ESSO Oil depot

4) Cement Depot for Jalaprathan Cement and probably Siam Cement .... next to PTT oil Depot, closed to the locomotive/DMU shed.

Huay Khayung Station
1) TPI Cement Depot - opposite to the station - on your right hand if you look at the trak to BKK

[Tower 43]

Khun Wisarut,

I should not use abbreviations. "Kharot" is Nakhon Ratchasima.

Volker,

Based on your response regarding goods trains we should be trying to find out what goods trains are actually operating?

If the trains listed are so-called "Demand Trains" it really does not give us a good picture of the actual day to day operation.

[Wisarut]

For the case of "Demand Good Trains", they are:

Gas Train: 651/652 Bang Lamuang - Nakhon Lampang
Cement Trtain: 693/694 Hin Lap - Lamphun (TPI)
Lignite Ash Train: 603/604 Mae Moh - Bang Sue (Siam cement)
Cement Train: 625/626 Bangsue - Phon Thong (Jalaprathan cement)

Mae Moh Station has granule Cement Silo - Lignite Ash Silo [Raw materials for Cement production] (Siam Cement)

[Wisarut]

Addendum:

Kanchanaburi has 2 Good Depots:
1) Sa Kosinarai (in ban Pong district of Ratchaburi) - Container depot for Siam Craft [Subsidiary of Siam Cement]
20 Tha Muang Stop (Contianer yard + Sugar Depot)

[Wisarut]

The followings are the REGULAR Good Trains from Bangsue:

Northeren region:
Good 601/602 Bangsue <--> Chiang Mai
(used the giant good bogies as usual!)

Good 605/606 Bang Sue <--> Mae Moh
[going out of Bang and Mae Mae Moh very late!]
(Ash train from Mae Moh for Siam Cement)

Good 625/626 Bang Sue <--> Phon Thong
[Cement Train for the Northern line]

Good 631/634 Mae Nam <--> Bang Sue <--> Buang Phra [Crude Oil Train form Larn Krabue]
Good 637/632 Mae Nam <--> Bang Sue <--> Buang Phra [Crude Oil Train from Larn Krabue]

Good 633/636 Laem Chabang <--> Bueng Phra (Crude Oil Train + Cointainer to/from Laem Chabang)

Good 635/638 Laem Chabang <--> Bueng Phra (Crude Oil Train + Cointainer to/from Laem Chabang)

Good 641/642 Ban Pok Paek <--> Chiang Mai(Refined Oil Train)
Good 643/644 Map Taphut <--> Nakhon Lampang (Refined Oil Train)
Good 645/646 Map Taphut <--> Phitsanuloke (Refined Oil Train)
Good 647/648 Map Taphut <--> Chiang Mai(Refined Oil Train)
Good 655/656 Bang Lamung <--> Nakhon Sawan (LPG Train)
Good 673/674 Ban Pok Paek <--> Nakhon Lampang (Refined Oil Train)

Isan region:
Good 501/502 Bang Sue <--> Ubon Ratchathanee
[It is necessary to attach 1 ALSTOM Loco behind sicne it is necessary to SPLIT this Train into a half so as to pass the
troublesome Kaeng Khoi - Pak Chong route!!!! - use the old
giant good bogie]

Good 521/522 Bangsue <--> Ban Chong Tai [Cement Train]
Good 523/524 Bangsue <--> Ban Chong Tai [Cement Train]
Good 525/526 Bangsue <--> Ban Chong Tai [Cement Train]
Good 571 - 574 Bangsue <--> Ban Chong Tai [Cement Train]
Good 581 - 588 Bangsue <--> Hin Lap [Cement Train]

Southern Train:
Good 701/702 Bangsue <--> Hat Yai
Good 711/712 Bangsue <--> Thon Buri (run ONLY Tuesday and Wednesday)
Good 721/722 Bangsue <--> Kuan Nian <--> Hat Yai [Cement Train]

Good 753/754 Bangsue <--> Padang Besar [Container Train]
Good 779/780 Bangsue <--> Padang Besar [Rolling Steel Train]

[Wisarut]

The followign are good trains ruinning ONLY on the SPECIAL request

Good 693/694 Hin Lap <--> Lamphun (TPI Cement Train)
Good 639/640 Mae Nam <--> Bung Phra (Crude Oil)
Good 651/652 Bang Lamung <--> Nakhon Lampang (LPG Train)

[The Enforcer!]

Originally posted by Wisarut
Addendum:

Kanchanaburi has 2 Good Depots:
1) Sa Kosinarai (in ban Pong district of Ratchaburi) - Container depot for Siam Craft [Subsidiary of Siam Cement]
20 Tha Muang Stop (Contianer yard + Sugar Depot)

Sorry are these in Kanchanaburi or Ratchaburi?

The Enforcer!

[Wisarut]

Tha Muang Container Yard is DEFINITELY within Kanchanaburi province but Sa Kosinarai is still within rachaburi province even though the REAL administrator of this Sra Kosinarai is the one from Kanchanaburi because the Namto Branch line was handle by Kanchanaburi ...

[The Enforcer!]

Originally posted by Wisarut
Tha Muang Container Yard is DEFINITELY within Kanchanaburi province but Sa Kosinarai is still within rachaburi province even though the REAL administrator of this Sra Kosinarai is the one from Kanchanaburi because the Namto Branch line was handle by Kanchanaburi ...

Thanks,

The Enforcer!

[Wisarut]

After Laem Chabang has become a reality, ther are very few trains left for Sattahip station - all are SPECIAL Train:

1) Artificial Coral Train - Nakhon Ratchasima - Sattahip
2) Artificial Coral Train - Sila At - Sattahip
3) Military trains ....

Artificial train will bring those decommissioneedd trains or old structure to be DUMPED into the sea to make artificial coral.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

And the World Jamboree Scout Camp. Was it last year? The camp had its own temporary station. Some scouts arrived by train from Don Muang.

Do they still run one train a day from Plutthaluang. I'd recommend that run to anyone. Great value. The station staff always look rather surprised when farang arrive, but are very welcoming. Plenty of passengers when I was on it.

Station staff told my wife that there was one oil train a day to Sattahip. Whether this is marine fuel for the naval port, I can't say.

And Pluttaluang seems to be a place where they renovate old railway carriages; or were those just specials for the jamboree?

[Wisarut]

Yep, the railway to Ploo Taluang is still runing one for arrival trip and once for return trip -> ONLY weekdays though

You can see Thai raiulfan trip to Ploo taluang Here:

First version
http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1136
Second version
http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1137

Third version
http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1143

Forth version
http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1145

Fifth version
http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1147

If you cannot see those photo, you better apply to become a member and you'll AMAZING amoutn of photos from Thai Railfans! :D

[Wisarut]

Train to Jamboree and Ban Chang is HERE

http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1513

[ncr]

Originally posted by Wisarut
Train to Jamboree and Ban Chang is HERE

http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1513 Where exactly is the Jamboree Stop? On the branch line to Map Ta Phut? Why are some of the tracks overgrown, as seen in the photo story?

[Wisarut]

Jamboree Stop is a stpop between Sattahip Naval Base and Ploo Taluang Station.

[The Enforcer!]

Is this line open?

The Enforcer!

[Wisarut]

Section from Ploo Taluang to Sattahip Naval base is for the "on request" train to dump the stuffs to make artificial coral as well as for Naval purposes.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Jamboree' Halt was created for the International Scout Jamboree in the Sattahip area about two years back, if I remember rightly. The scouts were brought to the Jamboree site in adapted 3rd class carriages from Don Muang.

Without really knowing anything about carriage configurations, I think I can state that those Jamboree carriages are the ones I saw being refitted at Ban Pluttaluang circa 2002. At the time, I thought they were part and parcel of the SRT project to aircon all 3rd Class.

So, Ban Chang actually has a station. No passenger trains, though, I guess. It remains me of some of the rather forlorn stops on the Hat-Yai to Padang Besar route. They probably have a points control board and provide the occasional shelter for waiting freight crews.

Once had an interesting experience. 'Er Indoors and I went to Padang Besar to visit a friend who works for SRT there. He got us a free ride home in the guard's van of a freight. Funnier than hell to see the only local passenger arrangements, with folks on freight cars and reefers, ducking for each bridge. The driver even slowed down intentionally on the rail overpass south of Hat-Yai Junction to allow folks to throw off their contraband. It was also fairly obvious that the guard was collecting 'fares'. Whether that was all backpocket or whether SRT gets even some of this 'fare', I can't say. Sometimes it's best not to ask in order not to incur the wrath of 'Er Indoors'. The only disadvantage of this run was having to clamber over freight tracks and through passenger trains to get off at Hat-Yai; with everyone probably making comments about 'Kii Nok Farang'.

[Wisarut]

There is ONLY one station between Hat Yai and padang Besar -> klong Ngae Station. Also the stop at a few meter before going OUT fo Thailand to Malaysia so all the passengers can DISEMBARK from that stop before going to the immigration office at Padang Besar.

It used to be several stations untikl the 4th Army Commander had asked SRT to CEASE the DMU service between Hat Yai and Butterworth.

For the case of the Jamboree carriages, it is KIHA 58 with the Engines REMOVED to function as 3td calss Aircon passenger cariages.

Well, same can be said to Sugei Kolok whne the trains whcih run across the Bridge over Golok ...

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Yes, Khlong Ngae! I guess those DMUs stopped because of weopons smuggling rather than the more usual rice. When did they last operate?

[Wisarut]

Now, Kamnan Song, the owner of Kamnan Song Rice Market at nakhon Sawan, is goign to revive the railway lien form Kamnan Song Pier to Nakhon Sawan so as to allo the train runnign to pick up TONs of rice from hsi rice market near the pier to be EXPORTED to China via Laem Chabang.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

We need more forward thinkers like this. So much more long-term practical than hundreds of smoking trucks driven by psyotics.

Those small towns running south from Hat-Yai are still quite big suppliers of rice to passing Malaysians. I guess that some of that rice was traditionally delivered from predominantly rice-growing provinces by rail. Indeed, I guess some of those freight vans parked at rural stations are involved in the carrying of rice sacks.

Is Kamnan Song envisaging bulk delivery? I note that TV pictures of large granaries show that they still use a lot of sacks.

[Wisarut]

Khun Hatyai Junction,

Ther used to be a plan to make a port at Paknam Pho to transport the goods alogn Chao Phrtaya ... but the Project FAILED from the start since Chao Prhaya River turns SHALLEOW durign the Summer and Dried Season .... and the silt has come to turn Chaophraya Even mroe shallow ... so the boats canto trasport the goods depite of the continuing dredgs ....

You can see thsoe photo at Series Paknam Pho station here:

http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2060

Hope tyhat the could find the weay to keep Chao Phraya river deep all seasons to allow boat trasportation to Paknam Pho ....
and they can revive the brach line form Paknam Pho to the pier again. Same can be said to the branch lien before Uboin Ratchathanee ....

[Hat-Yai Junc]

It is reassuring that I am not the only human being who takes pics of old sidings. As an expat, this is usually viewed as a sign of lunacy by most locals. How is it viewed as a local? I guess at least you have the luxury of being able to explain lucidly; or even making up some macho excuse, like 'I'm conducting a feasibility survey'.

[The Enforcer!]

Originally posted by Hat-Yai Junc
However, it is reassuring that I am not the only human being who takes pics of old sidings. As an expat, this is usually viewed as a sign of lunacy by most locals.

When I first started working here in 1986 I took my staff away for a weekend and we did the 'introductory circles" game as a means of getting to know each other.

Most of my staff were in fits of laughter when I explained that I was a bus and train enthusiast! It got worse when I also spoke about being an avid Doctor Who and Star Trek fan, and finally we had to stop when I explained that Cartography was my major hobby!

The Enforcer!

[R. Zimmermann]

Dr.Wangemann,
I saw the track extending beyond Khiriratanikhom, underneath undergrowth.
How far it extended, I do not know. Because of nightfall I could not walk much farther.
At Ban Takhum I saw nothing. This may mean nothing, as I did not get off the
car. One should, indeed, try to walk the line. Khun Wisruth's idea that it
submerged under the dam, is not supported by maps which show the alignment far off the lake.

[ncr]

Dr.Wangemann,
I saw the track extending beyond Khiriratanikhom, underneath undergrowth.
How far it extended, I do not know. Because of nightfall I could not walk much farther.
At Ban Takhum I saw nothing. This may mean nothing, as I did not get off the
car. One should, indeed, try to walk the line.It seems it is becoming unavoidable that one weekend not so far in the future, a 2Bangkok railfreak train and hiking tour is organized to solve this mystery..... imagine a dozen or so rail nuts from various countries stumbling along overgrown forgotten tracks in the jungles of western Surat Thani..... :D
(That'd be fun..... you could count me in!)

[Wisarut]

Wel, one of Thai railfan rtold me that the track from Khirirat nikhom has been extended to Khao Phanom Benja ... a mountain between Ban Takhun and Khirirat Nikhom

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Is that a recent development? Like I said somewhere else before. When I passed the junction about a year back, there was some additional siding construction going on there. Any ideas why that might have happened or why a line extension might recenly have occurred?

Keep us informed about those hiking expeditions! Sounds like the kind of crazy antic I would thoroughly enjoy. It really is amazing that the only way to find out anything is to go hundreds of kms and look on foot.

A quick look at the trusty old 1:250,000 also indicates an Amphur Phanom south-west of Ban Pak Suat, further south-east a Ban Bencha, and further SE a Khao Phanom. And a PN Map (My latest fascination, incidently; I'm beginning to appreciate PN's spirit of enterprise and illustration give or take a few inaccuracies. They have some beauty too! This company comes on as map crazy as myself!) indicates this is Khao Phanom Bencha National Park; which has been described as one of Thailand's few remaining lowland forests. This mountain lies about half way from Pak Suat to Phangnga, so it would be heading in the right direction down a valley parallel to Route 4118 perhaps (or possibly 4040). The most important thing is that both possible routes are undoubtedly BEYOND Pak Suat/ Ban Ta Khun. Has no one seen a line crossing Route 401 near Pak Suat? There certainly wasn't one when I last passed in 1996.
Another possible cause of confusion is that a spur was construceted to assist in the construction of the Chiao Lan Dam; and I have a vague notion that I have seen a map that indicated that spur many years back. That might tally with talk of a line now being submerged.

[R. Zimmermann]

We would be two...

Such trip would require some reasonable preparations:
1) A good, very good, map. Hatyai Jc can help? The track, as much as I saw
it beyond the buffer, is not immediately walkable and probably would have
to be approached "sideways".
2) There is nothing resembling a hotel in K. If the group would take, say, the
daylight DMU to Surat, connecting to THE train to K, latter would be
reached in the evening. A van should be available. Alternatively, take
night train so Surat, continue by van next morning. Stay Ratchaphrapha
dam (either try with EGAT, or on a raft)
3) Need a Thai guide/leader, Anybody there from 2Bangkok (Khun Wisarut),
or member(s) of the Thail Railfan Club?

Invite expressions of interest.

[Wisarut]

Khun Tum Ror For Thor (AKA Khun Outrunner) is going to be at Khrirat Nikhom ... he also ask there peers at Surat Thani to prepare the place fo him since No Hotel at Khirirat Nikhom ... Please contact hime at out_runners@rotfaithai.com

[Hat-Yai Junc]

I took a short detour to check out Khiri Rat Nikhom back in 1996 and would definitely recommend people to go & take a look. Nothing to really see, but a slice of reality after city life.
I'm afraid my maps are not really up to snuff for that kind of expedition. I'd recommend you take a trip to the RTSD on Maitri-Thingymagig Road and see if they can rustle up some very reasonably priced 50,00 maps of the area. I'm too far south to go there. And I think I've cleaned out the local shops. Pray before you go that it's not a militarily sensitive area. I've heard of maps being unavailable for the Bald Mountain area of Ranong because it used to be a military airfield back in the 1940s. Let me know if you have any joy. I believe they are now doing downloadable maps, but I can't get to grips with the website.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

A quick look at the trusty old 1:250,000 also indicates an Amphur Phanom south-west of Ban Pak Suat, further south-east a Ban Bencha, and further SE a Khao Phanom. And a PN Map indicates this is Khao Phanom Bencha National Park; which has been described as one of Thailand's few remaining lowland forests. This mountain lies about half way from Pak Suat to Phangnga, so it would be heading in the right direction down a valley parallel to Route 4118 perhaps (or possibly 4040). The most important thing is that both possible routes are undoubtedly BEYOND Pak Suat/ Ban Ta Khun. Has no one seen a line crossing Route 401 near Pak Suat? There certainly wasn't one when I last passed in 1996.
Another possible cause of confusion is that a spur was constructed to assist in the construction of the Chiao Lan Dam; and I have a vague notion that I have seen a map that indicated that spur many years back. That might tally with talk of a line now being submerged.

Herewith a 1:250,000 scan of the places above, highlighted with red marker. I haven't marked Ban Ta Khun, but it lies slightly to the East of Ban Pak Suat.

http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nehtrawihr/detail?.dir=/c60b&.dnm=1bd9.jpg&.src=ph

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Scans for this thread revisited. Download and view at natural size in your own graphics programmes. Yahoo Photos seems to reduce the resolution, so I'll probably scan at 180+ in future.
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nehtrawihr/album?.dir=c60b&.src=ph

[R. Zimmermann]

Khunn Had Yai Junc, tks for the map. Which is the map-number? I shall try
to scan the shops again. Got quite a few of these maps in the early
90ies from dk books, but they have discontinued business, it seems. I have
none from the south.

One more point on Ban Phlutaluang (and beyond). A visit on 13th December
revealed:
a) the line to Satthahip is dead and overgrown. Jamboree station is overgrown. I would have no guess when the last train had run here.

b) the private workshop at Ban Phlutaluang which used to overhaul, among
others, also the ex JR-West KIHAS 38 and 58 is inactive, the former make-shift timber- and upholstery shop is gone. 19(?) KIHAS are sitting there in
diferent phases of "de-construction", engines, aircons and in some cases the
entire interior furnishing are ripped out. I had sent a report with some photos
to Ron.

[Wisarut]

Khun Reinier,

Thai Railfan already taken a photo of the route to ban Plutaluang and the advanture to jamboree as well as laem Chabang by Khun Tum Ror For Thor (AKA Khun Outrunner) - SRT Worker who love to ride MTB.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

I guess you might want to go direct to the RTSD on MaitriChit Road near The Ministry of Defence. I know for a fact that the maps can be ordered by post from there. Let me know how you fare there!

For the Westerly End of the Khiri Rat Nikhom Branch
Scale 1:250,000
Changwat Phangnga
Series 1501 S
Sheet NC 47-14
Edition 2-RTSD
Also covers the Kapong Area. Of course, there may be later editions of all of these. All below are of the same series.


Westerly End of KRN Branch & a branch off the mainland at Muang Rae Hut, which appears to run to some mines 2 or 3 kilometres West of the mainline. It forks at one point into two branches that seem to go to separate mines. Part of this branch also overruns the northern boundary of this map, running onto the overlapping Chumpon Sheet listed below :
Changwat Surat Thani
Sheet NC 47-11
Edition 2-RTSD

Satun & Langu:
Changwat Satun
Sheet NB 47-7
Edition 3-RTSD

Amphoe Sichon & Ban Huai Mut:
Changwat Nakhon Sri Thammarat
Sheet NC 47-15
Edition 2-RTSD

I also recently acquired 2 X 1:250,000 for TakBai, Chumpon & Prachuap Khiri Khan, thus relieving DK Today of the very last of some very tired old stock. DK seems to have become the Makkasan of books. They used to have a complete wall poster of these maps for the whole south running up the stairwell.

You might want to check out the following:
Changwat Chumpon
Sheet NC 47-7
Series 2-RTSD
Shows the complete extent of the Muang Rae Hut Branch mentioned above. You may well see this scanned in soon. There is no evidence of the attempted Japanese railway from Thung Tako to La-Un on this map, incidentally.

The Hatyai to Songkhla Railway:
2 X 1:250,000 Maps
Sheet 5023 II
Series L7017S
Edition 1-RTSD
Amphoe Hat-Yai

&

Sheet 5123 III
Series L7017S
Edition 1-RTSD
Changwat Songkhla

[R. Zimmermann]

Tks for the info, Khun Hat-Yai Junc.
Shall see what I can still find here. My maps, when bought in 1991-93 where
all about 1o years old or older at that time. - I understand a remapping
exercise had been going on of the entire Kingdom recently, but I am not so sure that we shall ever see (or ablt top obtain) the results in print.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Depending on your ability in Thai, this might help. I tried to find the downloads for cash, but my limited Thai reading skills didn't get much further than a grid of all the map numbers for each scale.
http://www.rtsd.mi.th/

[DR.WANGEMANN]

Dear Khun R.Zimmermann,

although we surely can both write and talk in German it would be just fair to the other users of that forum to do that in English,as they can then participate in our discussion.Thank you very much on your information on the Khiri Ratthanikhom Extension.As I've mentioned earlier there should be also one or more stops or even stations in a kind of carcass,as I really can't believe that the line was extended to an unknown place for another 30 km without any intermediate station or stop.There are some good photos of the whole section between Ban Thung Pho Junction and Khiri Ratthanikhom which show most of the stops and also Khiri Ratthanikhom station on the www.rotfaithai.com webpage,but sadly there is no photo of the buffer stop at Khiri Ratthanikhom.Of course it would be a good idea to make a tour on that unused line to explore what is really there.
By the way for everyone who's interested in unknown stations of the SRT network he should register on the excellent www.rotfaithai.com webpage as user and go to the forums and there you'll find the photos of Sawankhalok,Talat Nong Khai,Nong Khai,Ubon Ratchathani,Kaeng Khoi Junction,Aranyaprathet,Thai,Map Ta Phut,Ban Plu Ta Luang,Wongwian Yai,Maha Chai,Ban Laem,Mae Klong,Suphan Buri,Malai Maen,Nam Tok,Nam Tok Sai Yok Noi,Khiri Ratthanikhom,Kantang,Trang,Nakhon Si Thammarat,Sungai Kolok and Padang Besar,to mention just a few out of thousands(!).
Still missing for me are photos of Sattahip,Laem Chabang and the Mae Nam:Bang Chak station.
I do hope some day in the near future to see a report in the forum of the "Magical Mystery Tour"from Khiri to somewhere.
Best wishes from Volker

[Wisarut]

If you cannot get the connection with Thai railfan who live in Sattahip area, it is quite hard if NOT impossible to access into such a restricted area ... even though Khun Tum Ror For Thor has managed to reach
both Jamboree Stop (a stop between Khao Sattahip and Ploo Ta Luang)
and Laem CHabang ... well reachign the barb wired wall ... not the actual station thouhg ... and need to run away when he saw Cobra near the
track to Laem Chabang .... :D

I think Someone or Khun Tum has already manage to take a photo of Mae Nam station even though he cannot access into teh restricted area of Bang Chak refinery ....

[R. Zimmermann]

Khun Wisarut, it is no problem visiting and photographing Jamboree stop,
if you have your machete ready to cut the bushes...

[Wisarut]

Yeah, a machete to cut down thsoe cobras alogn wiht thsoe bushes

[R. Zimmermann]

Guten Tag, Dr. Wangemann (or Volker).
Yes, sure, these shall remain to only two German words!
I was digging in my photos, but, sorry, no buffer photo either. I walked
past it and took two shots in either direction from the dirt road which
crosses (and, in fact, buries) the track about - what shall I say? - 30 or
so meters beyond the buffer. Both photos are not meaningful at all, as all
they show is undergrowth and bushes, but I have seen the track! Anyway, as soon as I shall find some time I shall look into the idea of making an excursion. All the maps I have seen and whatever they are worth show the
line extending to, almost, the Banthakum/Ratchaphrabha road (which, I
presume, did not exist when the line was first planned and, maybe, built).

[dick]

Dear members,
Good work is done for the proposed trackmaps, all over the country. But please ,pay attention to the complicated but most interested area of Bangkok. We understand that it's difficult to make, but still we need information about the Bangkok area.

[GWR]

The followings are the REGULAR Good Trains from Bangsue:
Goods 721/722 Bangsue <--> Khuan Niang <--> Hat Yai [Cement Train]

No longer to Hat-Yai I suspect, as the cement spur stopped being used in about 2001. I vaguely remember seeing one train cross the BIG C level crossing not long after the 2000 Flood. The rails and silos are still there, but the level crossing rails have been tarmacked over. The Khuan Niang TPI terminal is definitely still in action, so I imagine that's where this train now goes - and no further.

One 'goods' fuction of Khuan Niang in the past was unloading prisoners for the 1937-1948 Tarutao Penal Colony. From this station they were ferried by dirt roads to Satun Prison; and then shipped on the next day to the island on the prison's motorlaunch 'Adang'.

[Wisarut]

Now,the railwaytrack for ForRice transport rom Pak Nam Pho to Kamnan Song Rice Pier has been OPENED after being abandoned for many years -> thanks to the Fuel Hike whcialized this defuct line. :D

This one is for rice train using ALSTHOM Loco + 20 BCF putting into the containers ... heading to Klong Toei (Mae Nam Station).

There is another to Mae Nam ... Train 811/812: Bang Sue - Mae Nam

[Wisarut]

TPI Cemrent trains

The ONLY TPI cement trains that go to/from Hin Lap are

Cement Train 581/582 (Bangsue - Hin Lap - Bangsue)
Cement Train 585/586 (Bangsue - Hin Lap - Bangsue)
Cement Train 564/565 (Preng - Hin Lap - Preng)

Cement Train 591/592 -> (Kaeng Khoi - Nong Khon Kwang - Kaeng Khoi)
Note: Cannot run every day as it should be due to locomotive shortage

Cement Train 595/596 -> (Kaeng Khoi - Huay Khayung - Kaeng Khoi)
Note: Cannot run every day as it should be due to locomotive shortage

Cement Train 693/694 => (Kaeng Khoi - Lamphun - Kaeng Khoi)
Note: SUSPENDED due to locomotive shortage

Cement Train 593/594 => (Kaeng Khoi - Nong Khon Kwang - Kaeng Khoi)
NOTE: SUSPENDED due to locomotive shortage

Cement Train 566/567 => (Hin Lap - Klong preng - Hin Lap)
Note: SUSPENDED due to locomotive shortage

The resolution is to put 5-6 Bogie cement Carriages with ANY good trains that pass Hin Lap station to Kaeng Khoi and then putting thsoe TPI Bogie Cement Carriages with Crude Oil Train 633 (beung Phra - Laem Chabang).

Bangsue for the cargo trains is referred to Phaholyothin Cargo terminal.

REF: http://www.railway.co.th/traffic-info/TP_1.htm (Northern Line cargo)
http://www.railway.co.th/traffic-info/TP_2.htm (Northeastern line cargo)
http://portal.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=51169

[Tower 43]

The only solution is for some of us to make prearrangements with GE financing for 10 or 12 new GE locomotives, more if required, and concurrently establish a contract with the cement companies that would force the SRT to allow cement traffic to be handled by another company.

The cement companies do not have many choices for moving their goods and would likely be happy to pay a reasonable price for reliable service. Just not having to deal with the SRT on a regular basis would be worth significant Baht to them. The cement group is a powerful organization having friends in many places.

In addition, arrange for the required financing to extend a number of sidings at strategic locations to allow for longer trains handled by two locomotives. The SRT is totally out of control and the cement companies and others are looking for a solution that will never come from a totally inept SRT and Government. The time is right, any takers? Jack

[Wisarut]

The only solution is for some of us to make prearrangements with GE financing for 10 or 12 new GE locomotives, more if required, and concurrently establish a contract with the cement companies that would force the SRT to allow cement traffic to be handled by another company.

The cement companies do not have many choices for moving their goods and would likely be happy to pay a reasonable price for reliable service. Just not having to deal with the SRT on a regular basis would be worth significant Baht to them. The cement group is a powerful organization having friends in many places.

In addition, arrange for the required financing to extend a number of sidings at strategic locations to allow for longer trains handled by two locomotives. The SRT is totally out of control and the cement companies and others are looking for a solution that will never come from a totally inept SRT and Government. The time is right, any takers? Jack

Agree at this point ... At least, there is GE Financial Services Office in Bangkok .... so you can guess the rest ....

The business whcih has to deal with cargo trains are

1) Siam Cement -> for Cement traisn from Ban Chong Tai and flying ash from mae Moh to Bang Sue
2) TPI Cement -> for Cement trains from Hin Lap
3) Siam City cement at Map Krabao

For the case of Oil, it is the route from refinrry at Laem Chabang to major oil depot at Bueng Phra or so ....

[Wisarut]

Northern Line:
Cargo Train 601/602 (Bangsue - Chiang Mai - Bagsue)
Type General cargo in 50 CGs - run occasionally
Depart Bangsue 00:05 Arrive Chiang Mai 23:20 Depart Chiang Mai 12:00 Arrive Bangsue 11:45 (Next day)

Crude Oil Train (AKA Black Express) - 29 BOT + 1 BTV - Crude Oil Depot at Bueng Phra
Crude Oil 631/632, Bueng Phra - Mae Nam - Bueng Phra
Crude Oil 633/634 Bueng Phra - Laem Chabang - Bueng Phra
Crude Oil 635/636 Bueng Phra - Laem Chabang - Bueng Phra
Crude Oil 637/638 Bueng Phra - Mae Nam - Bueng Phra
Crude Oil 639/640 Bueng Phra - Mae Nam - Bueng Phra

Refined Oil Trains from Map Taphut (Map ta Phut has refinery)
Refined Oil 643/644 Map ta Phut - Lampang - Map taphut
Refined Oil 645/646 Map ta Phut - Phitsanuloke - Map taphut
Refined Oil 647/648 Map ta Phut - Chiang Mai - Map taphut

Refined Oil Trains from Ban Pok paek (the end of PTT Oil Pipeline)
Refined Oil 641/642 Ban Pok Paek - Chiang Mai - Ban Pok Paek
Refined Oil 673/674 Ban Pok Paek - Lampang - Ban Pok Paek

Natural gas Trains from Bang Lamung - (the end of PTT Gas Pipeline)
Natural gas 651/652 Bang Lamung - Lampang - Bang Lamung
Natural gas 655/656 Bang Lamung - Nakhon sawan - Bang Lamung

Flying ash Train from mae Mo -> form EGAT Power Plant
Flying ash Train 603/604 Bang Sue - mae Moh - Bang Sue
Flying ash Train 605/606 Bang Sue - mae Moh - Bang Sue -> cancelled

Jalaprathan cement Train at Phone Thong
Jalaprathan Cement Train 625/626 Bangsue - Phone Thong - Bangsue

TPI Cement train at Lamphun (Note: cancelled)
TPI Cement Train 693/694 Kaeng Khoi - Lamphun - Kaeng Khoi

REF: http://www.railway.co.th/traffic-info/TP_1.htm

[Wisarut]

General Good Train
Good Train 501/502 Bangsue - Ubon Ratchathani - 50 CGs runnign occassionally -> train cutting into 2 trains between Kaeng Khoi - Pak Chong
Good Train 561/562 Bangsue - Nong Khai - 50 CGs runnign occassionally

Siam Cement Group cement Trains - 22 BCC
SCG Cement Train 521/522 Bangsue - Ban Chong Tai - bang Sue
SCG Cement Train 523/524 Bangsue - Ban Chong Tai - bang Sue
SCG Cement Train 525/526 Bangsue - Ban Chong Tai - bang Sue
Siam Cement Group cement in sacksTrains - 16-18 BCC
SCG Cement Train 527/528 Ban Chong Tai - Ubon Ratchathani - Ban Chong Tai
SCG Cement Train 529/530 Ban Chong Tai - Udorn Thani - Ban Chong Tai

Siam City cement
Siam City Cement train 571/572 Bangsue - Map Krabao - Bangsue
Siam City Cement train 573/574 Bangsue - Map Krabao - Bangsue

Siam City cement in Sacks
Siam City Cement train 2003/2004 Map Krabao - Udorn Thani - Map Krabao
Siam City Cement train 2005/2006 Bangsue - Map Krabao - Bangsue

TPI Cement train
TPI cement 564/565 Hin Lap - Preng - Hin Lap
TPI cement 566/567 Hin Lap - Preng - Hin Lap
TPI cement 569/570 Preng - Hin Lap - Preng
TPI cement 581/582 Bangsue - Hin Lap - Bangsue
TPI cement 583/584 Bangsue - Hin Lap - Bangsue
TPI cement 585/586 Bangsue - Hin Lap - Bangsue
TPI cement 587/588 Bangsue - Hin Lap - Bangsue
TPI cement 591/592 Kaeng Khoi - Nong Khon Kwang - Kaeng Khoi
TPI cement 593/594 Kaeng Khoi - Nong Khon Kwang - Kaeng Khoi
TPI cement 595/596 Kaeng Khoi - Huay Khyung - Kaeng Khoi (Train cutting between Kaeng Khoi - pakchong)

Refined Oil from map Ta Phut (refinery at Map Ta Phut)
Refined Oil 535/535 Map ta Phut - Khon Kaen - Map taphut
Refined Oil 541/542 Map ta Phut - Ubon Ratchathani - Map taphut

Refined Oil Trains from Ban Pok paek (the end of PTT Oil Pipeline)
Refined Oil 537/538 Ban Pok Paek - Udornthani - Ban Pok Paek
Refined Oil 2001/2002 Ban Pok Paek - Khon Kaen - Ban Pok Paek

Gas Train by PTT
Gas Train 531/532 Bang Lamung - Samran - Bang Lamung
Gas Train 533/534 Bang Lamung - Samran - Bang Lamung

Sugar Container
Sugar train 2007/2008 Laem CHabang - Udorn Thani - Laem Chabang
Sugar train 2009/2010 Laem CHabang - Hin Dat - Laem Chabang
Sugar train 2013/2014 Bangsue - Laem CHabang - Bangsue

Oil Train for SRT
Oil Train for SRT 2015/2016 Bangsue - Ban Pok Paek - Bangsue
REF: http://www.railway.co.th/traffic-info/TP_2.htm

[Wisarut]

General Good Train - 50 CGs runnign occassionally
Good Train 701/702 Bangsue - Hat Yai - bang Sue - 50 CGs runnign occassionally
Good Train 703/704 Hat Yai - Sugei Golok - Hat Yai - 50 CGs runnign Sporadically due to insurgency .. with soem cut at Na Muang and Wat Kuan Mid
Good Train 707/708 Hat Yai - Padang besar - Hat Yai - 50 CGs runnign occassionally
Good Train 711/712 Bangsue - Thonburi - bang Sue - 50 CGs
Good Train 715/716 Bangsue - Tha Ruea noy - bangsue - 50 CGs -> Paper

Good Train 753/754 Bangsue - Hat Yai - bang Sue - 50 CGs runnign occassionally
Good Train 767/768 Thung Song - Hat Yai - Tung Song - 50 CGs runnign occassionally
Good Train 771/772 Hat Yai - Padang besar - Hat Yai - 50 CGs runnign occassionally
Good Train 775/776 Thung SOng - Khao Chum Thong - Thung Song

Container
Container Train 733/734 Bangsue - Surat Thani - bangsue (some may be dropped at ban Thung Pho)

Gypsum at Ban SOng
Gypsum train 763/764 Ban Song - Padang besar - Ban Song
Gypsum train 765/766 Ban Song - Thung Song - Ban Song

Jalaprathan Cement
Jalaprathan Cement Train 717/718 Bangsue - Ban Cha Am - Bangsue

SCG Cement Sack (SCG -> Siam cement Group)
SCG Cement Sack 777/778 Thugn Song - Thi Wang - Thung SOng

Container to Malaysia: Run everyday with high priority
Container Train 780/779 Padang besar - Bangsue - Padang besar
Container Train 782/781 Padang besar - Bangsue - Padang besar
Container Train 784/783 Padang besar - Bangsue - Padang besar

TPI Cement
TPI cement Train 721/722 Bangsue - Kuan Niang - Bangsue -> runnign occassiaonally
TPI cement Train 723/724 Nasan - Surat Thani - Nasan

REF: http://www.railway.co.th/traffic-info/TP_3.htm

[Wisarut]

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD ) 861/862 for NYK
ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )863/864 - THL (RUn ONLY Saturdays and Sundays)
ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )865/866 - ESCO (Generally reserved slot not running)
ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )867/868 - not running
ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )869/870 - for TIFFA (Generally reserved slot not running)
ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )871/872 - for TIFFA (RUn ONLY Saturdays and Sundays)

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )873/874 - for THL
ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )875/876 - for ECTT (RUn ONLY Saturdays and Sundays)

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )877/878 - for SSS

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )879/880 - for NYK

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )881/882 - for ESCO

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )883/884 - for NYK

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )885/886 - for ECTT

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )887/888 - for TIFFA

ICD Cargo (Ladkrabang ICD - Laem Chabang - Ladkrabang ICD )889/890 - for SSS

These trains will stop ONLY at Hua Chachoengsao and Sri Racha for traffic clearance while passign ONLY at Hua Takhe

These trains also consisted of 30 BCF instead of 34 BCFs due to the unit constrains.
http://www.railway.co.th/ticket/CargoContainer.asp

[GWR]

SRT land proposed for industrial parks

Rail logistics links an added advantage

ARANEE JAIIMSIN

New industrial estates could be built on land owned by the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) to help create rail logistics links to improve competitiveness, said Industry Minister Suvit Khunkitti.

''Land leasing might be a possible option to propose to the SRT,'' Mr Suvit said yesterday.

He said that Transport Minister Santi Prompat was interested in collaborating with the Industry Ministry to develop rail systems linking both existing and new industrial estates.

The debt-ridden railway would gain more clients, he said, while manufacturers would benefit from reduced logistics expenses as rail is one of the lowest-cost transport modes.

The vast majority of freight in Thailand is transported by truck and the country's logistics costs relative to gross domestic product are among the highest in Asia.

The SRT, with debt of 51.2 billion baht, has annual interest expenses of 1.85 billion and pension expenses of another 2.4 billion per year for its 12,000 staff. Its train operations also run at a loss due to government policies to keep fares affordable for lower- and middle-income travellers.

The previous government set out a plan to restructure the SRT and enable it to add value to its thousands of rai of land throughout the country.

Collaboration between the Industry and Transport ministries would depend on whether the Transport Ministry had sufficient budget to do so, said Mr Suvit.

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http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/12Feb2008_biz29.php