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ncr
10-09-03, 05:29 PM
Does anyone know why cars in Thailand drive on the left side of the road?

Admittedly, this question might be a litle bit off-topic, but if you look close, it is an interesting issue, nevertheless:

As far as I know, explicit traffic rules weren't introduced in most countries before the turn of the 19th/20th centuries (or maybe as early as the middle of the 19th?). Please correct me if I am wrong. Before that, everyone used the roads more or less as they liked, but with increasing traffic, that inevitably led to problems, even with horse carts and carriages back then. So governments had to come up with binding rules to sort out the mess. I guess it started in most "developed" countries, i.e. Western Europe (North America?) - sometime I read something about all this, but I cannot remember where.

Then of course the colonial rule played an important role in dependent territories, and that's where it really gets quite intriguing.

For example, Indochina (Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam) were French, so they drive on the right until today. Malaysia and Singapore in contrast were British - they drive on the left. Indonesia: first Dutch, then British, left (?) Philippines: Spanish/American, right. The same is true for Africa, with countries like Kenya or South Africa (British, left) on the one hand side and most of West Africa (French, right) on the other hand, for example. Or take South and Central America, which was largely Spanish/Portuguese - hence right side. Only some Caribbean Islands such as Jamaica have left side traffic.

Still, it is strange in Burma, which was also under British rule, yet they drive on the right. Maybe they changed it after gaining independence in order to protest against their colonisers? The traffic regulations haven't always been continuous. Sweden, for example changed from left to right only after the Second World War, if I remember correctly. (Now that must have been an interesting process!)

Now, finally, what about Thailand, which was never under foreign rule, as we all know? Why did they opt for the left side? I can only speculate. Did the Siamese haver better relations (political, economic) with British Malaya than French Indochina at that time? They had territorial disputes with both, but I think the mutual animosity with France was much bigger - especially if you consider issues like Angkor Wat, which once belonged to Siam. There was also a war and the Western part of Cambodia and parts of Laos were ceded to France. Siam also ceded territory on the Malay Peninsula to Britain, but without violence and bloodshed, I think.

But maybe there is another reason, or no particular reason at all? Has anyone ever heard anything about this topic, and can you share that information?

blue
10-09-03, 08:23 PM
Here's something interesting about left-hand driving from The Straight Dope:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_021b.html

Kiku99
12-09-03, 11:13 PM
I believe it's because Thailand used to have a better relationship with the British. Many children of the King and other government official also went to England for education.
Not only the driving that we follow the British. There are other things also but i cann't come up at this moment.
:)

Gigabyte
16-09-03, 02:49 AM
Hmmm....

Interesting topic.

Yes, officially vehicles here drive on the left side of the road. It's just amazing to see all the people driving on the wrong side or simply backward on a busy expressway.

One question I always asked myself: Why most (?) of the road signs here are both in Thai and English. I suspect that it's because of the 1949 IDP agreement (in Warshaw?) which Thailand is one of the contracting state. Means that if Thailand wants its IDP recognized abroad, it must have road signs in English as well.

Anyone can confirm???

Hitesh
18-09-03, 01:48 AM
I think it is because apparantly English is also an 'official' language in Thailand, although one would guess.

ncr
05-10-03, 10:22 PM
Another funny aspect that came to my mind a long time ago and resurfaced again now, after I started this thread:

Why, if Thailand has left side road traffic, is it that people on pedestrian bridges here are expected to walk on the RIGHT? No, don't tell me you never noticed that! There are those cute little arrows to be found everywhere: Up on the right, down on the left. (If people actually stick to that rule is, of course, an entirely different question. :D)

Hitesh
05-10-03, 11:56 PM
I've always thought the same thing. Why do cars, trains etc. travel on the left, yet pedestrians have to "keep right" on pedestrian beidges and the skytrain.

Wisarut
06-10-03, 03:27 AM
Khun Hitesh,

The reason for the pedestrians to keep right is to enable the pedestrians to see the cars which could hit and run over them.
Try walking left and then -> I hoe that you won't nbe hurt
by the car running over YOU ... Same thign can be done to the case of climing Skytrain ...

ncr
12-10-03, 08:47 PM
Khun Wisarut,

??????

Somehow I didn't get your point......

Of course you should walk on the right if you happen to walk on a country road (or on the left, for countries with right-side driving) -but we were talking about footbridges here!

I really don't fear that a car will run over me on a saphan loi :) (but after the recent events we should maybe begin to fear being robbed on one?)

And what about "climbing the Skytrain"??? mai khao djai na khrap.

ncr
01-09-04, 03:24 AM
Anyway, here's an excellent page (literally, as it's all on one page!) about right side/left side driving in the world. Earlier mentioned on the 2bangkok.com mainpage. It has many interesting facts as to the development of driving habits over the course of history, and a comprehensive list of countries. (And more.)

http://www.brianlucas.ca/roadside/

The Enforcer!
01-09-04, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Hitesh
I've always thought the same thing. Why do cars, trains etc. travel on the left, yet pedestrians have to "keep right" on pedestrian beidges and the skytrain.
Well I'll go to foot of our stairs!

In 18 years I have never noticed that pedestrians have to "keep right"!

.... and from experience they don't!

Also noticed a mixed practice on escalators at Skytrain, probably due to the main populus not having long term experience with them. People do not know if to walk to stand on them!

On London Undgeround one stands on the right of an escalator as 'Moving traffic' (i.e. people walking) goes on the left. This helps ease passenger flow. Sadly no such signage here 'either way'.

The Enforcer!

Hitesh
01-09-04, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by The Enforcer!
Well I'll go to foot of our stairs!

In 18 years I have never noticed that pedestrians have to "keep right"!

.... and from experience they don't!

Also noticed a mixed practice on escalators at Skytrain, probably due to the main populus not having long term experience with them. People do not know if to walk to stand on them!

On London Undgeround one stands on the right of an escalator as 'Moving traffic' (i.e. people walking) goes on the left. This helps ease passenger flow. Sadly no such signage here 'either way'.

The Enforcer!

Numerous footbridges in Bangkok have a yellow line painted down the centre with arrows pointing up and down, showing the pedestrian where to walk.

The skytrain and subway also have signs telling passengers to keep right.

Nekochan
02-09-04, 01:03 AM
This is what I am thinking.

Thais copied almost everything from the British. Or I should say they had some influences on the ruling class. Driving on the left is just like do as the British do.

You may know that Thailand national enthem came from God Save the King!! (God King Nation = Nation Religious Monarchy) and there is an anthem for the monarch himself (I think the British only have one version of God Save the Queen)

BMTA symbol?? does it look familiar? Thai troops dressed in red and blue uniforms with black fur hats on National Day (Jan 24) in 35C heat?

Oxford? Cambridge? their annual sports that finally became Chula-Thammasat football?

Why not French? It was not about how the French took the west bank of Mae Kong River (now it is Laos) or French frigates incident earlier.

I think Thai ruling class saw the French as ..... anti monarchists, leftists, people whom they may not want to associated with. Perhaps it was what the French did to their monarchy themself.

British system was the preference at that time. Thais just took side.

I will change the topic not related to national security.

..... footbridge and footpath (ok! it is sidewalk.)

I do not think there is any rule.

Escalator? keep left? or right? walk? run? or just stand still?

Tough choice! I choose to stand on the left and let fast lane traffic going. You may not be worry that much that most Thais always stand still in front of you anyway.

The Enforcer!
02-09-04, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Hitesh
Numerous footbridges in Bangkok have a yellow line painted down the centre with arrows pointing up and down, showing the pedestrian where to walk.

I always wondered what that was for!

The Enforcer!

The Enforcer!
02-09-04, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Hitesh
The skytrain and subway also have signs telling passengers to keep right.

Failed to see them on the Skytrain before I stopped using it and have never been on the Subway, but I will take your word for it.

Do they say 'Stand on the Right' or 'Walk on the Right'?

The Enforcer!

jpatokal
02-09-04, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by The Enforcer!
Failed to see them on the Skytrain before I stopped using it and have never been on the Subway, but I will take your word for it.

Not just signs but railings, on every single stairway connecting the ticketing level to the platform level. And here, thanks to that metal bar, people do actually mostly stick to the right side...

ncr
02-09-04, 09:29 PM
What is funny though about the Subway Stations is that sometimes the escalators going up are on the right side/the ones going down on the left,....... and sometimes it is the other way round. (Both in different stations and on different levels.) There is really no system.

The Enforcer!
03-09-04, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by jpatokal
Not just signs but railings, on every single stairway connecting the ticketing level to the platform level. And here, thanks to that metal bar, people do actually mostly stick to the right side...

Must be me - being old and fuddy duddy!

Will try it out one day.

The Enforcer!

Hitesh
03-09-04, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by ncr
What is funny though about the Subway Stations is that sometimes the escalators going up are on the right side/the ones going down on the left,....... and sometimes it is the other way round. (Both in different stations and on different levels.) There is really no system.

yea that always irritates me