Rot Tok Talk

[ncr]

Originally posted by Tower 43
Can you provide me with the English name for the four wheel push cars that people use for transportation on the track between stations on the Eastern Line as well as other lines. People also use them on the line to the Port of Bangkok for moving all kinds of goods.
Originally posted by Wisarut
You are refering to those BCF .... the flat wagon for container, don't oyu? No, he was obviously not referring to container wagons....
but I can imagine what he means - a very small rail vehicle powered by human force (feet, or hand, via a lever) or a small motor - and a dictionary told me that is called a handcar in English (I am no native speaker)?

(For example:
http://www.onelook.com/?w=handcar&ls=a
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861691464)

[Tower 43]

NCR,

Your description is correct. That is the description I should have used in my post. Thank you.

The best I ever got from one of the SRT conductors I knew was rot-tow. But, I was never sure we understood each other.

While we are on this subject what is the motorized version of the small four wheel vehicle called. It is used by the railway maintenance people. In the USA it is called a motor car.

[Wisarut]

For the car Khun NCR and Khun Tower 43 are referring to, we call them "Rot Tok" (Tok car) ... Some of Thai railfain DID ride Tok Car when they took a photo of kaeng Khoi - Klong Sip Kao route at Ongkharak... toi take a photo of Phraphutthachai Tunnel

[Wisarut]

Well, it sould be "Inspection cars" instead ... but I like the name "Rot Tok" or "Tok car" so much that I should keep usign them anyway.

[von Hirschhorn]

This sort of vehicle with motor is called: draisine
The flat board with rollerskate wheels some Thai people use
to get acces on the track is nameless, maybe someone gives
a nice name other than Rot Tok (falling car or falling off car?)

O Yes, once I ride the Tok car from Chiang Mai to Saraphi
with a very nice photo as result.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

What do they call those handcarts? I note that they are often used to move customers's luggage along underused tracks at stations like Bamru. Stations where Bangkokians drop off a lot of slightly dodgy stuff they have returned with from down south. And it's a long platform when an express pulls in.

[ncr]

Originally posted by Wisarut
For the car Khun NCR and Khun Tower 43 are referring to, we call them "Rot Tok" (Tok car) ... Some of Thai railfain DID ride Tok Car when they took a photo of kaeng Khoi - Klong Sip Kao route at Ongkharak... toi take a photo of Phraphutthachai Tunnel Would you call the vehicle seen in this thread

http://www.rotfaithai.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1147

(scroll down to image "plutaluang11.jpg") a rot tok, or what is it?

[ncr]

Originally posted by Hat-Yai Junc
What do they call those handcarts? I note that they are often used to move customers's luggage along underused tracks at stations like Bamru. Stations where Bangkokians drop off a lot of slightly dodgy stuff they have returned with from down south. And it's a long platform when an express pulls in. A related question was discussed in this thread: http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2513#post2513

(See posts 7 to 11.)

But it seems you mean a somewhat different sort of vehicle.

[Wisarut]

I woudl call them "Rote Tauk"

[ncr]

And where does that name come from? Does it have any meaning?

[Wisarut]

The soung of Engine -> TokTok ..................

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Rot Tauk/Tok. I guess that refers to the motorised ones used for maintainence etc. I'm just talking about boards with wheels that look like they might
have been salavaged from an old machine. That said, I wouldn't put it past Chao Na to create their own Rot Tok with Etan engines and bits. They're a creative bunch, given half a chance! Transport Ministers do over decades what locals often figure out in five minutes.

[von Hirschhorn]

The of course by all means unofficial use of the State Railway tracks. In Cambodia it’s called the ‘bamboo railway’ even attached with a small motor. A simple wooden board and little massive steel wheels like the ones in use for a roller skate. ‘A rail skateboard’ for one or ‘push rail board’ while some people propels them with a pole. This is a pure local invention I doubt if already there’s given an official name to it. So name it new and maybe it will stick.:D

[kevsmith]

In some parts of the U.S.A they are known as 'Speeders' and in the U.k are often referred to as 'Gangers trollies' or 'P-Way trollies' (short for Permanent Way). They are usually kept in sheds by the mainline on tracks set at 90 degrees to the running line. When they are required they are pushed out of the shed onto boards set in the track and physically manhandled onto the running line. There is a good example of this type of shed at the south end of Khon Kaen station
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn340/kevsmith/444535_23_013-1.jpg

[von Hirschhorn]

I found a picture of the rail skateboard use, almost officially.
Here seen the assistant of the Khun Tan station propelling him to the sign posts in order to attaches petroleum lamps for lightening. These days electric illumination took over, so no more rail skating. Take note of the dress code and for the occasions his railway outfit.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3057/4230106po6.jpg