Hat-Yai Transports

[Ijud]

Khun Admin, JPatokal & Wisarut

I'd like to point out that the picture posted on the home page which is the Singapore Bukit Panjang LRT is NOT a monorail system... it is indeed an Automated People Mover System which normally used at the airports around the world including KLIA and Changi... to know more about the characteristics of a monorail system visit: Monorails.Org Website (http://www.monorails.org/tMspages/WhatIs.html)

[jpatokal]

Originally posted by Ijud
I'd like to point out that the picture posted on the home page which is the Singapore Bukit Panjang LRT is NOT a monorail system... it is indeed an Automated People Mover System which normally used at the airports around the world including KLIA and Changi...

Right you are, in fact it's a picture of Singapore's Bukit Panjang LRT. See my earlier post: :D

http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103

[Hat-Yai Junc]

This topic has arisen on this site before, but appears to have expired with age. Here are a few 'uninformed' comments. I'd like to know more about it from those who are more in touch with these issues. The plan is one published on your esteemed site previously.

There is also a link to a forum that I hope will shape up into an active English Language forum on all Hat-Yai-Songkhla issues. I don't claim authority on any of these issues. English speakers/users living in this locale are rarely informed about local developments; despite the strong likelihood that we will be 'early adopters'. I see this as my way to try and find these things out for myself and others. I find it increasingly difficult to listen to debate on these issues, knowing that all of us are only operating on hearsay. In fact, few expats and locals even realise that these proposals exist:-
http://hatyaisongkhla.bravehost.com/FutureTransit.htm
http://pub13.bravenet.com/forum/1114337427

[Wisarut]

Actually, some Southern Thai railfans have come with such kind of thing before ... and I just make soem correction on them ...

However, the section from Hatyai to Songkal need somce modification since LOTS of people have bult hteri HOME on
Hat Yai - Songkla Railway Track

[Hat-Yai Junc]

Yes, rerouting will be necessary. I doubt whether any of us would relish bulldozing people's small hopes & endeavors for the sake of a mega-project. Although Songkhla is far from being a heritage site, it remains essentially a low-rise city. Much as I like BTS, el-tracks are rather ugly. I think the powers that be should go to a few lengths to save fouling up what heritage and natural beauty Songkhla has left. But I probably won't live to see it, anyway.

[Hat-Yai Junc]

http://www.parrypeoplemovers.com

Check out this ugly duckling! Maybe this would be more suitable for provincial city transit systems. I believe they are being used in some areas of Europe.

[GWR]

Really haven't seen this version of the so-called Hat-Yai Monorail Map; although it's in the archives of this site. I have no idea if this plan is proceeding in any shape or form, but Prai pattano was duly elected Mayor; and he does seem to have some interesting plans up his sleeve. I note there is some comment that this is not the picture is not of a Monorail at all; but of an 'Automated Guideway Vehicle' (AGV) at Bukit Panjang in Singapore. The middle track guides the train, but the thing moves with rubber wheels along the guideway.:-

http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/mmnews06.shtml#7

http://www.hatyaitoday.com/news/hy.gif

A monorail for Hat Yai - December 13, 2003

http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/MassTransit/train1.jpg
[Photo: Hat Yai Today]

Bird passed along this news: I would like to introduce you to two interesting sites on the Web. The first site is about the Monorail/LRT project (so-called Hat Yai Mass Transit System: HMT) for Hat Yai City recently proposed by Prai Pattano, a Democratic candidate for Hat Yai City Mayor, in order to solve the city's growing traffic problem. (The mayoral election will be held early next year.) It seems to me that Hat Yai City Municipality will lead the project by itself (like the BMA did for the BTS project in 1991) and not wait for the MRTA to draw the plan for Hat Yai people.

The site Hat Yai Today published the story (all in Thai) along with pictures including the map of the proposed routes. This map was taken from the second web site, the Rail Thai site. The Rail Thai site itself is very interesting indeed. It's full of information about Thai railway with maps and lots of pictures. This one should satiate rail fans' appetite very well. Again all information on this site is also in Thai.

More on the Hat Yai Monorail - December 15, 2003

Yesterday, we ran a story about The Hat Yai Monorail (see below). Today Wisarut comments on the system:-

'For the case of the Hat Yai Mass Transit System, I found several shortcomings which would need to be addressed before implementing the system.
Even though the system looks good (ring line and red line that connects to magnet places such as Hat Yai Bus Terminal, Hat Yai Railway Junction, Diana Department Store, Big C Hat Yai, Prince Songkla University, Jiranakorn Stadium, Macro Hat Yai, etc.), there are the following drawbacks:-

1) No direct connection with Hat Yai International Airport
2) No direct connection to Muang District of Songkhla - a replacement for the defunct Hat Yai-Songkhla Railway
3) No direct connection with Tinsulanond Stadium (the main stadium of Songkhla Province)
If Songkhla is to host the 2007 SEA Games, the monorail line must link with Tinsulanond Stadium and Jiranakorn Stadium.
However, this project has been proposed by Prai Patthano, the Hat Yai Mayor from the Democrat Party, and thus it will be quite hard if not impossible to have the system implemented especially when the local government must ask for the funds from the central government to set up the system [Since the Democrat party is in the opposition].
If Prai Patthano have read the complaints from Singaporeans about the shortcomings of the People Movers (AKA monorail system), he would opt to use LRT instead since it has fewer problems. An LRT could follow the defunct Hat Yai-Songkla Railway line. It is larger and more economic of scale to come up with an LRT instead of a toy monorail.
BTW: The monorail photo is from the Bukit-Panjang LRT of Singapore (a feeder Monorail or an automated elevated people mover line for the Singapore MRT).'

[GWR]

The Map of 'Hat-Yai Mass Transit' features the Monorail Line A in Green and the Monorail Line B in Red. North is Left and East is at Page Top:-

http://www.hatyaitoday.com/news/hy.gif

The circular Green Line A Stations (starting from the Top Left Bend) are Khor Hong Intersection, Prince of Songkhla, an unnamed station, Diana Dept. Store [Interchange with RED], four unnamed stations, the Police Station, Gim Yong Market, the Clock Tower (Downtown Bus Stop) [Interchange to RED], Hat-Yai Wittiyalai School & Hua-Rua [Where?]. [Thence back to Khor Hong.]

Red Line B Stations (starting from the Left) are Big C, Jiranakorn Stadium, the Clock Tower [Interchange to GREEN & Downtown Bus Stop], Lee Gardens Plaza (where there is a branch to the Railway Station), Saengthong School, an unnamed station, Diana [Interchange to GREEN] Asian Trade Center Weekend Market, the Bus Station and MAKRO (Top Right).

[GWR]

Are the plans for a Hat-Yai to Songkhla Light Rail and a Hat-Yai monorail completely dead?

I see Lord Mayor Prai was campaigning for a Cable-Car from the Park to Kor Hong Mountain in the recent election. Any more info on that one anyone?

[rodfaithai]

Are the plans for a Hat-Yai to Songkhla Light Rail and a Hat-Yai monorail completely dead?

Refer to http://www.otp.go.th/ study in year 2000 Hatyai - Songkhla LRT is not the solution for these twin city.

Also so Hatyai monorail, the lord said "Hatyai have no traffic jam"
so the monorail will scaled down to a toy size for kids in the park.

Cable-Car
is in the design process a consultant in BKK just hand on an interim report last Friday.