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GWR
17-08-07, 10:23 PM
CIA, FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits
By Randall Mikkelsen

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People using CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program.

The changes may violate Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest guidelines, a spokeswoman for the site said on Thursday.

The logo of the Central Intelligence Agency is seen in the lobby of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia in this March 3, 2005 file photo. People using CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program. (REUTERS/Jason Reed)
The program, WikiScanner, was developed by Virgil Griffith of the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico and posted this month on a Web site that was quickly overwhelmed with searches.

The program allows users to track the source of computers used to make changes to the popular Internet encyclopedia where anyone can submit and edit entries.

WikiScanner revealed that CIA computers were used to edit an entry on the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. A graphic on casualties was edited to add that many figures were estimated and were not broken down by class.

Another entry on former CIA chief William Colby was edited by CIA computers to expand his career history and discuss the merits of a Vietnam War rural pacification program that he headed.

Aerial and satellite images of the U.S. prison for terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were removed using a computer traced to the FBI, WikiScanner showed.

CIA spokesman George Little said he could not confirm whether CIA computers were used in the changes, adding that "the agency always expects its computer systems to be used responsibly."

The FBI did not have an immediate response.

Computers at numerous other organizations and companies were found to have been involved in editing articles related to them.

Griffith said he developed WikiScanner "to create minor public relations disasters for companies and organizations I dislike (and) to see what 'interesting organizations' (which I am neutral towards) are up to."

It was not known whether changes were made by an official representative of an agency or company, Griffith said, but it was certain the change was made by someone with access to the organization's network.

It violates Wikipedia's neutrality guidelines for a person with close ties to an issue to contribute to an entry about it, said spokeswoman Sandy Ordonez of the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikipedia's parent organization.

However, she said, "Wikipedia is self-correcting," meaning misleading entries can be quickly revised by another editor. She said Wikimedia welcomed the WikiScanner.

WikiScanner can be found at wikiscanner.virgil.gr/

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/8/17/worldupdates/2007-08-17T040106Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-290173-1&sec=Worldupdates

GWR
24-08-07, 09:26 AM
Got this from BBC World Service Radio originally. Indeed, the radio report also mentioned that Wikiscanner (http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/) had also turned up evidence that BBC staff were also involved in editting some Wikipedia entries.Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) entries.

A quick search in Wikiscanner with the input 'Thai' suggests that people based in Thai Airways offices and Royal Thai Embassies may also have been involved in a limited number of cases of Wiki editting:

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/name2ip.php?orgname=thai+&location=&pagetitle=

Defence blocks staff's Wikipedia access

Posted 3 hours 8 minutes ago
Updated 2 hours 21 minutes ago
According to WikiScanner, Defence employees have made more than 5,000 Wikipedia edits.

According to WikiScanner, Defence employees have made more than 5,000 Wikipedia edits. (ABC News: Giulio Saggin)

* Related Link: WikiScanner (http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/)

The Defence Department is blocking staff from editing public encyclopedia Wikipedia amid revelations they had made more than 5,000 changes.

The changes made by Defence staff range from removing anti-Liberal Party comments, to correcting factual information about the Australian Defence Force.

Staff from the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet were also found to have made edits to Wikipedia on topics such as the "children overboard" affair.

Treasurer Peter Costello's page was also edited, removing a reference to the nickname "Captain Smirk".

The edits were uncovered using a program called WikiScanner, which allows people to trace alterations to the open source encyclopedia.

Defence spokesman Brigadier Andrew Nikolic says some staff were exceeding reasonable internet use.

"Until recently this access included the ability to edit Wikipedia articles, but we note that through our monitoring that usage was exceeding our guidelines," he said.

"Particularly those [guidelines] that prevent personal comment from being confused as Defence comment."

Meanwhile, the head of an online rights lobby group has questioned the use of taxpayer-funded staff to change online articles about politically sensitive issues.

Chair of Electronic Frontiers Australia Dale Clapperton says the site can be changed by anyone but there should be ethical considerations as well.

"You also have to ask yourself whether it's a responsible and reasonable use of taxpayer dollars to have public servants trying to sanitise entries on Wikipedia," he said.

Earlier, Mr Rudd targeted Mr Howard over the issue.

"[On] Wikipedia anything can appear and it's entirely, I think, legitimate for your personal political staff to make changes of a factual nature," he told Channel Seven.

"But to engage public servants to go out there and re-edit history, strikes me as odd to say the least."


http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/24/2013756.htm

Ahoerstemeier
24-08-07, 03:55 PM
A quick search in Wikiscanner with the input 'Thai' suggests that people based in Thai Airways offices and Royal Thai Embassies may also have been involved in a limited number of cases of Wiki editting:

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/name2ip.php?orgname=thai+&location=&pagetitle=

But it seems only the Phaya Thai hospital group is really editing articles about themselves, not only anonymously, but also with the username Phyathaigroup. But no real "doctoring" :-) of articles on them, just creating advert blurbs which no-one happened to convert into something more encyclopedic yet. Most of the other edits from the assigned ranges were simply editing experiments, which of course were quickly reverted.

Chi Man
25-08-07, 10:44 PM
Anybody and his dog can edit Wikipedia, which makes every single word in it suspect. It's an interesting phenomenon, and it can be helpful to inspire a search, but that's all. I just don't trust anything I read on the site.

jpatokal
26-08-07, 04:23 PM
Anybody and his dog can edit Wikipedia, which makes every single word in it suspect. It's an interesting phenomenon, and it can be helpful to inspire a search, but that's all. I just don't trust anything I read on the site.
Ever find yourself reading an article in a respectable newspaper or magazine about a topic you're very, very familiar with, and realize it's riddled with errors varying from the trivial to the flagrant? Similar errors exist in every other story on every other topic, you just can't spot them. But on Wikipedia, not only can you spot them, you can fix them.

Of course, this doesn't mean you should jettison common sense -- if Wikipedia is telling you that Thaksin won the international Mr Nice Guy contest in 2007 or that the president of the US is OMG WTF SUK MY BALLZ!!!11!! then it's worth checking the article history and the reference given for the fact. But you can't do that with "normal" printed media either.

doseiai
14-09-07, 07:56 AM
I think most people don't realize Wikipedia can be "tagged". If you think one person is expressing their point of view (POV), and its not neutral, then it can be tagged as such, discussed, debated, to length. Not that this will stop all POV, especially US politics such as presidential candidates probably have thousands of hired people trying to revert information on purpose, but u can bet there are a lot of "neutral" topics in it. Part of forcing logins by locking hot topics is to control this.

Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what is spinned and what isn't. If what u read is totally POV, then u can challenge that.

With that said, I find that generally, and false facts or vandalism is quickly reverted, they are short lived. But top down elaborate misinformation is probably not going to be exposed in wikipedia any more than in the general media.

Pas
18-02-08, 10:03 AM
I just followed a link to WikiTravel Press site and had a quick look at their newly launched Wikitravel Guide to Singapore. Looks interesting.

http://wikitravelpress.com/books/en/Singapore/

I should mention Khun Jpatokal of this forum, I believe he is the editor of this cool guidebook :cool:
Looking forward to Bangkok guide soon :)

jpatokal
18-02-08, 04:20 PM
I just followed a link to WikiTravel Press site and had a quick look at their newly launched Wikitravel Guide to Singapore. Looks interesting.

http://wikitravelpress.com/books/en/Singapore/

I should mention Khun Jpatokal of this forum, I believe he is the editor of this cool guidebook :cool:
Looking forward to Bangkok guide soon :)
That's right -- buy lots of copies and tell all your friends. :D If anybody is interested in distributing the book in Thailand, drop me a line and we'll talk; bulk orders are far cheaper than individually printed copies.

And yeah, Thailand is definitely high on the list of upcoming guides. The main problem is getting our hands on decently licensed (PD/CC) maps, but I'm hoping that the TAT can help us on this...

Ahoerstemeier
18-02-08, 04:44 PM
And yeah, Thailand is definitely high on the list of upcoming guides. The main problem is getting our hands on decently licensed (PD/CC) maps, but I'm hoping that the TAT can help us on this...

I look forward to what TAT can bring into Wikitravel and Wikipedia - high quality photos and maps are among the things they should be able to provide. But for Bangkok, Khun Lerdsuwa has created several great SVG maps for the most important districts, e.g. the one for Phra Nakhon (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_Phra_Nakhon_src_eng.svg).