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About 1,000 protesters surround Parliament
About 1,000 protesters lay siege around the Parliament, demanding the National Legislative Assembly to cease functioning.
The protesters formed a picket line in front of three main entrances of Parliament at 8 am to prevent NLA members from entering into the compound.
Jon Ungpakorn, a leader of the protest, said the NLA should stop enacting new law during its remaining term of 13 days.
He said the NLA was hurting the public by issuing new laws for the benefit of the military and investors at the cost of the people.
The Nation
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30058870
http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=417
Interview with Jon Ungphakorn: It's time for the NLA to stop!
Prachatai
11 December 2007
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On 12 December, a number of people will gather in front of parliament to lay siege to the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), to make them virtually defunct. Led by the NGO Coordinating Committee on Development (NGO COD) and other civil society movements and individuals who can no longer tolerate the excesses of this interim legislature, the showdown is aimed at halting their last ditch of efforts to endorse, en masse and in haste, many laws that abuse human rights. As the general election is forthcoming, The NLA should stop action on significant legislation, but they have failed to do so. One of the most abusive laws, the Internal Security Bill, which has drawn outcries from the public, is going to sail through the legislature. Here is an interview with a leader of the protest movement and the reasons why they have to disable the illegitimate parliament.
What's wrong with the NLA?
A number of laws are tabled for consideration by the NLA, and they are laws that will lead to excessive abuse of people's rights on one hand and increased powers for the bureaucracy, including the military, on the other. This legislature was appointed and is nearing its term. And the general election is forthcoming.
One of the most important laws we oppose is the Internal Security Bill. Others include laws concerning the privatization of higher education, energy, water, agricultural councils, radio and television broadcasting, etc. A rush to push through these laws will work to the advantage of the government rather than people. And so far, people have no means to voice their opposition. Therefore, the only possible means we have now is to shut parliament down. We are saying that there is no need for NLA to pass any more laws.
That means if the laws were favourable, then NGO-COD would have no problem with the NLA, right?
We have to admit that through the NLA, some members of NGO-COD have made attempts to push through laws that work in the interests of the disadvantaged. A few such laws have been endorsed while others have lost their original meaning. For example, the Community Forest Act came out in a version entirely different from what the people's sector had fought for over the years. It could be said that the majority of NGO-COD members would accept the NLA for the laws that they endorsed and which work in the service of people.
That means it's now proven that the NLA has failed the test and has not worked in the interests of the people. Therefore they should stop?
Since they came from appointment, we, NGO-COD, do not propose that they be closed down. Somehow they should never have been appointed from the beginning. But in light of the current situation, we propose that it be closed for two main reasons. First, the time for a coup-makers' appointed parliament is over as the election is forthcoming. Second, the contents of the pending laws are obviously geared toward increasing the power of the bureaucracy and the military at the expense of the people. Many of the laws will infringe on our rights. And we deem that it is illegitimate for an appointed parliament to consider such laws that have drawn much controversy. They should instead be considered by a bicameral elected house system with more checks and balances.
Aren't you addressing their lack of legitimacy?
I can say this from my personal view, not NGO-COD's. In general, NGO-COD has made clear its stance on various occasions including rejection of the draft constitution, not because it was a product of the coup, but because of its contents. Similarly, we deem that there is no need for the NLA to perform their duties any more during this election time. We do not question their legitimacy since the beginning. We are talking about the contents of many pending laws which are detrimental to the people.
The consideration of laws that affect people's freedom and liberties has been going on for some time, why the move against it is made just now?
There have certainly been some abusive laws. One that comes to my mind is the Cyber Crime Act which infringes on people's cyber rights. We protested against the law, too, but our action failed to stop it. Previously, we have made attempts to monitor and make our stance clear on various pending laws in the parliament. But at this point, the Internal Security Bill is utterly unacceptable. For us, this law has drawn the strongest outcry from public.
Therefore, we want to mobilize people from all sectors to halt the legislature. And many academics will join us and other civil society organizations including the labour unions, student groups, etc. which are campaigning against abusive laws.
Given the diverse membership under NGO-COD, the political stance of members would normally be different. Since the NLA has been in place, has their stance changed, and how?
NGO-COD is composed of various factions including those opposed to the coup, the NLA, the appointed legislature. But maybe they are the minority among NGO-COD constituents.
For the move to close the NLA, we have been consulting various networks, particularly those who think that the NLA is pushing through useful laws. We have to come to terms with each other. And we think we have reached some consensus. Nevertheless, among the NGO movement, we do have different opinions such as on the Community Forest Act. Some think it is useful for the law to be enacted now, but others think we should wait for the parliament- elect. The stance on the NLA is not as important as what we can expect from some members in the NLA.
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Aren't you considering lobbying them to withdraw some laws?
We have made umpteen statements on the Internal Security Bill; we have talked to the NLA members who are close to the NGOs. And there will be just 20 of them who will vote against the law, but there are another 101 members. We believe this way we won't be able to stop this law. Therefore, there is no need for further negotiation, or submitting another petition or meeting anyone. The only solution is to show the people's power to force them to close down the legislature.
Now that the law is close to passing, don't you think your move is too late?
It should take 10,000 people to sign up to kick off a process to nullify a law. It seems to nullify it is easier than to enact it. We can draft just one law to invalidate ten existing laws. After the election, we should plan to demand a law that makes it possible for 10,000 people to invalidate existing laws to solve problems caused by the laws passed by the NLA or other existing laws. In my opinion, the people's sector should move toward cancelling all the orders made by the coup makers. Even though they are classified as laws, they were issued by the coup makers, not the parliament-elect.
But previously NGO-COD was determined to reject the constitution. Now you are saying attempts should be made to have a constitutional clause that allows 10,000 people to sign up against abusive laws?
We were opposed to the Draft Constitution. But since it passed the referendum, we have to come to terms with it and accept it as the current constitution, whether we like it or not. Therefore, we should use available constitutional mechanisms to push through the people's agenda.
The move to close down the parliament reflects the people's dissent toward the laws. Of course, it is better to prevent the enactment of the laws than pressure for their cancellation later.
Will your move be perceived as making a mess just prior to the election?
We have made clear the reasons why we have to close the parliament. We never plan to use force or clash with anyone. But we think the move to close parliament is appropriate and people will take sides with us. We have given explanations to various groups that will come to join us, not just from the NGOs.
That means there is certainly some unity in the movement to close the NLA?
Yes, among the NGOs, but there is one network that might still want to push through some law. But as far as I know, it has been made clear among us.
What if the NLA responds by saying that this move was made by the minority who did not get what they had asked for, how would you explain this?
We have to say then that it's because of the abusive laws they are pushing. Some of them are even in breach of the Constitution, yet they are rushing them through. Whatever they accuse us of, we will ask them back why they have to rush these laws through. Can't they wait for the new parliament to consider them, which will have much more legitimacy? We think they are rushing them through as their grand finale.
They might believe that tough laws won't get passed by politicians from election.
We are not opposed to laws that promote people's rights and freedoms. But these laws are blatantly abusive. For example, the Water Bill aims to nationalize all the water management, even though throughout history, many communities have been very active in managing water resources. The law will increase bureaucratic powers and belittle the power of the people sector, which is very unfair. The traditional weir system has been operated by people in the North for centuries. All these complex water management systems have been managed by communities based on cooperation. Now they are taking it into the hands of the government. We deem that opportunistic bureaucrats are taking advantage of people and through the NLA they want to push through any measure that secures or even increases their power.
What will be the activities in closing down the parliament, any symbolic action or submitting of letter of petition?
We expect a real siege, but it depends on how many people we can mobilize. The methods can vary according to the situation. There is no need to put it in the open now.
Will you close it down physically and prevent anyone getting in?
Yes, a physical closure. Symbolic closure won't work. We will do anything to prevent the commencement of the sessions.
Don't you fear it will trigger violence?
I have no idea how this will bring about violence. We will be there unarmed and will use violence against no one. It is not easy for them to find any reasons to clamp down on us.
Don't you fear they will declare martial law just as they did in Prachuab Khiri Khan?
http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/forum/showthread.php?t=2879
I have no fears of martial law. It is no longer easy to impose it as it has met a lot of opposition and condemnation at the international level. If they decide to declare martial law, that means they are overreacting. Of if they apply the Emergency Decree against us, that will simply make people understand why the law should not exist. It will obviously show that such a law suppresses peaceful expression.
Will you negotiate with the political parties to make them show their stances such as on the Internal Security Bill?
Some NGO networks did ask political parties to do so on issues of interest to them. But within NGO-COD, it has been decided that we are reluctant to ask political parties about their policies, like to ask for their stance on the Internal Security Bill. It is not so useful to do that.
Do you think many people will join?
I am inclined to think there will be many more people than the previous gatherings.
If the NLA does not respond to your move, what will you do further?
If the siege is not fruitful, I cannot tell what we shall do yet. But I do believe we can successfully close it down. If we have enough supporters, we can close it down. But of course, we cannot close it down forever. But at least, doing so helps people to vent their feelings. Right now, NLA members feel indifferent to people's feeling, and somehow we have to find ways to solve the problems caused by them later. To put it simply, we want them to know that a number of people cannot accept the laws they are considering. Frankly speaking, the 20 something NLA members who are opposed to the Internal Security Bill should have resigned by now.
Is the move part of pressure for them to resign?
No, that is up to their own conscience. But I think resignation is something very uncommon in Thai society nowadays.
How can those who want to close down parliament join you?
Please gather at 07.00 a.m. in front of parliament on Wednesday 12 December. We will be there for the closure in the morning.
Translated by Pipob Udomittipong
Thai Language source:
http://www.prachatai.com/05web/th/home/10507
12 December 2007
Demonstrator rally closes off Parliament
Over 1 thousand demonstrators from citizen networks and private organizations have rallied in front of the Parliament building. The gathering of protestors has closed off the building and has hindered the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) from convening to discuss various bills and issues.
The group has caused traffic buildups and mild public disturbance since the early morning in front the Parliament. They have stated that they will not allow the NLA to discuss agenda’s as they believe many of the bills to be passed are against the freedoms and rights of the public.
The rally is being led by the Private Development Cooperation Council’s leader Jon Uengpaporn (จอน อึ๊งภากรณ์). Police and special tasks forces have been dispatched to the scene but have been placed to protect against incidents and clashes between citizens. Latest developments in the area have shown that police have been placed to monitor the peace.
Reporter : RTI-Reporter01
http://thainews.prd.go.th/newsenglish/previewnews.php?news_id=255012120006
Urgent: Protesters break into Parliament's compound
Some 50 protesters climbed over the fence to rally outside the assembly hall Wednesday to demand the National Legislative Assembly to stop working.
About 20 policemen inside the compound could do nothing but standing by to watch them singing outside the assembly hall and shouting for the NLA members to stop working.
The Nation
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30058872
HRW: Political parties ignore rights issues
(BangkokPost.com) - Political parties and candidates have failed to make human rights a campaign issue despite Thailand's pressing human rights concerns in the run-up to the Dec 23 general election, Human Rights Watch said Wednesday.
"It's not a matter of human rights taking a backseat in the Thai elections, politicians are not addressing human rights in the first place," said Asia director at Human Rights Watch Brad Adams.
Human rights issues have been in the international spot light especially during former pm Thaksin Shinawatra’s administration. Thousands of cases of extra-judicial killings were reported as a result of his war on drugs campaign.
Thaksin’s government is also blamed for sparking the southern insurgency movement, after officials involved in the Krue Se and Tak Bai incidents were not punished.
"While speaking about the need for political reform, parties have failed miserably to present any plan on how to reverse the continuing attacks on basic rights, especially the proposed new internal security law that would make elections meaningless,” Adams said.
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[Photo: The Nation - Somsak Raksuwan’s painting depicts his self-portrait as a monster hugging Government House surrounded by vultures. "Since corrupt politicians won the election and became ministers they are looking to cheat the Kingdom like these vultures", Somsak explained. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/12/12/headlines/headlines_30058844.php ]
Protesters block parliament to end NLA role
More than 1,000 protesters blocked the entrances of the Parliament demanding that the National Legislative Assembly end its role and not pass more bills that would bring back "bureaucratic polity" to the country.
More than 50 protesters broke into the Parliament building and locked the doors to the hall with big locks to prevent the NLA members from going in.
John Ungpakorn who leads the protest of civic groups and Non-Governmental Organisations said the NLA must stop its role because it had push for legislations that increase power of bureaucrats and capitalists but destroy rights of civils. "The NLA has been pushing for Internal Security Bill to enpower the military to have more power. It is trying to legislate forest commuity law, water resource law to remove community's rights in natural resources. It also pushes for the broadcast laws that tighten the state grip in the media ownership,'' Jon said.
Some NLA members tried to negotiate with the protesters to move the blockade but some just drove through the entrances slowly.
NLA speaker Meechai Ruchuphan suspended the meeting indefinitely at 10.30 AM after the NLA acknowledging the resignation of NLA Surichai Wankaew who quitted his post and urged the NLA to end its role.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/12/12/politics/politics_30058873.php
Protesters demand four bills removed
John Ungpakorn who leads the protest of civic groups demanded that four bills under the National Legislative Assembly's deliberation be removed or there would be no negotiation..
More than 50 protesters broke into the Parliament building and locked the doors to the hall with big locks to prevent the NLA members from going in.
John Ungpakorn who leads the protest of civic groups and Non-Governmental Organisations said the NLA must stop its role because it had push for legislations that increase the power of bureaucrats and capitalists but destroy rights of civils.
He demanded that Internal Security Bill, Comunity Forest Bill, Water Resource Bill and Autonomous University Bill and the Broadcasting Bill be withdrawn from the deliberation.
NLA speaker Meechai Ruchuphan suspended the meeting indefinitely at 10.30 AM after the NLA acknowledging the resignation of NLA Surichai Wankaew who quitted his post and urged the NLA to end its role.
Protesters shouted calling on NLA member Wallop Tangkananurak to step down.Wallop accepted to negotiate with Meechai saying he believed many bills are useful to the country. The NLA has yet to pass over 40 bills under its deliberation. Its term will end in 13 days when the general elelction brings in new House members.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/12/12/politics/politics_30058884.php
Photo slideshow of today's protest:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/12/13/headlines/headlines_30058900.php
Protesters prevents NLA meeting
The junta-appointed National Legislative Assembly (NLA) cancelled its afternoon meeting Wednesday after a hundred out of 1,000 or so protesters managed to storm the grounds and squat in front of the Parliament meeting hall, chanting for the assembly to stop passing dictatorial laws detrimental to the society and resign.
They insisted the NLA must cease its legislative function now because the general election will take place in less than two weeks and a new parliament will soon be formed.
NLA chairman Meechai Ruchuphan insisted however that the assembly will continue to carry on with its duties and refused to yield to any of the protesters' demands, creating a deadlock for further showdowns in the coming days.
The protesters, an alliance of NGOs activists, the rural poor, state enterprise union members and led by former senator Jon Ungparkon, which is also chairman of the NGO-Coordinating Committee for Development (NGO Cord), declared partial victory shortly before 2pm in front of Parliament.
"I think we made history by storming the Parliament's meeting hall... but the NLA is a shameless assembly which insists that it will carry on considering bills. Although they have not been elected by anyone they serve a dictatorial regime that lacks the democratic spirit and insist they will continue to meet," said Jon. "This fight is now over, but the real fight will only be so when the NLA permanently shuts itself down."
The alliance listed what they see described as "dangerous bills" aimed to be passed by the NLA within the days to come. It includes the Internal Security Bill (ISB), which they argue will violate citizens' rights and freedom; the Privatisation Bill which will lead to further privatisation of state enterprises; the Radio and Television Activities Bill which will guarantee a monopoly of radio and television owned by the state and the military; the Water Bill which will lead to the nationalisation of water resources from rural villagers, plus the University Privatisation Bill for Chulalongkorn and Chiang Mai Universities and more.
An NLA member who asked not to be named but was formerly a key member of the antiThaksin Shinawatra's People's Alliance for Democracy, told The Nation that the odds are against the protesters.
"When the NLA votes, all bills will be passed because they have set the stage up for it all already."
Others like NLA member Kirti Bunchua said they have been appointed by the King.
"How can they usurp the authority of the king who declared this assembly open. We're merely acting according to the law and the country need laws."
Another NLA member, Suraphol Nitikraipot, who's also rector of Thammasat University said: "If they say we're illegitimate, they should have said it from the very beginning. But let me asked how this coming election is made possible? We passed the election law and society need legislators. They shouldn't oppose us because they simply didn't like some bills," said Suraphol, in reference to some NGOs leaders and activists who have been cooperative when the NLA was first appointed by Parliament.
"Many of these people are today on the other side of the fence."
Surichai Wungaew was the one NLA member who resigned effectively (Wednesday) and although he made no mention about the legitimacy of the NLA, Surichai stated in his resignation letter that it's no longer appropriate for the NLA to be passing bills with the election just days away.
Other NLA members from civil society like Gothom Arya, Tuanjai Deetej and Wallop Tangkananurak insist they not resigning, citing they can still do good things in their current capacities.
Somkiat Tangkitvanich, members of a special committee to draft at least three bills, told The Nation that he thinks the Internal Security Bill is highly problematic although he insists not all bills are dangerous. He urged the alliance to do better homework and not prematurely portray all bills as dangerous. He also added that it would be too late for the opponents to claim that the NLA lacks legitimacy.
"Over all, I think the accusations of the group make sense. The NLA has screwed up many bills but I'm not sure about their specific complaints," he said, adding that he fears the NLA will continue to pass bills even after the election until a new Parliament is appointed, making the issue even more controversial.
Pravit Rojanaphruk, Sathien Viriyapanpongsa
The Nation
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/12/13/headlines/headlines_30058874.php
Wisarut
13-12-07, 11:04 AM
The NLA Seige yesterday is a conspiracy to indirectly discredit His Majesty so they can change the system to republican or even communist accordign to the Marxist ideology ... Ai John is folloiwng the Marxist examples in Nepal as the way to take a revenge ... He and his brother neither forgives nor forget what the right wing had done to Ajarn Puay on 6 October 1976... :eek: :rolleyes:
Baton Rouge
13-12-07, 12:10 PM
The NLA Seige yesterday is a conspiracy to indirectly discredit His Majesty so they can change the system to republican or even communist accordign to the Marxist ideology ... Ai John is folloiwng the Marxist examples in Nepal as the way to take a revenge ... He and his brother neither forgives nor forget what the right wing had done to Ajarn Puay on 6 October 1976... :eek: :rolleyes:
That's pretty much what Bernard Trink (not my favorite human being by any imagination stretch) would have called 'Human Manure'.
I'm very interested in your comments, Khun Wisaruth. Sometimes it is clear that you are just reporting comments elsewhere. On this occasion, it seems these really are your thoughts on the matter.
Why shouldn't Khun Jon & Khun Ji harbor resentments? Every other Thai politician harbors exactly the same resentments.
I think you have unwittingly made the case for a far more inclusive system than currently exists. It is precisely because these frustrations have been allowed to fester for so long that they are now giving off such a terrible stink.
If you really want to emasculate a hothead, there is no better way to do it than plonk him down in a situation in which he is forced to interact with other overdemanding people. Excluding him from political participation will only allow his overindulgent and ungrounded fantasies to degenerate into a monster.
I look forward to the day when parliament has a few Marxists. After all, we already have more than a few flat-out fascists. I would even welcome a Taiwanese-style parliament, where the political wusses (most of them are essentially physical & mental wimps) can actually beat each other up occasionally. A few more political and physical blackeyes would do their overinflated egos the world of good! I have yet to see either a decent fistfight or even a really good political dust-up in parliament here. Most of the time, they prefer to engage in very cowardly acts of backstabbing treachery.
13 December 2007
Demonstrators converge on Parliament
Demonstrators from several Non-Government Organizations and citizen networks who rallied in front the Parliament building to protest a National Legislative Assembly (NLA) meeting broke through boundaries and climbed over fences into the parliament. The demonstrators had gathered to stop the NLA from meeting on several key issues stating that the bills to be discussed impeded on their freedoms and rights.
Police had traveled to the protest surrounding the Parliament building and were monitoring the situation. The NLA were able to continue their meeting throughout the day but demonstrators later climbed over fences to end the meeting.
Nonetheless, the NLA affirms it will conclude its remaining 45 agendas in a newly scheduled meeting. An initial agreement has been struck with the demonstrators to allow the NLA to finish its meeting and the assembly has asked that demonstrators closely study the issues being raised.
Reporter : RTI-Reporter01
http://thainews.prd.go.th/newsenglish/previewnews.php?news_id=255012120040
Activists calls on Govt to withdraw 11 bills
A group of activists Thursday called on the government to withdraw 11 bills pending deliberation by the National Legislative Assembly.
The activists, led by Jon Ungpakorn of Chulalongkorn University, submitted their demand to PM's Office Minister Paibool Watanasiritham and PM's Office Minister Thirapat Serirangsan.
Jon said the government should withdraw the bills and leave them for the next government to decide whether to go ahead enacting them because the bills would affect the people's rights.
The Nation
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30058991
Wisarut
13-12-07, 01:05 PM
Now, Khun Plew See noeng (Chief Editor of Thaipost) has write the editorial articel criticizing the Storming of NLA by Ai John and other NGOs ...
Editor Plew pointed out that the action of Ai John and NGOs is not very different from UDD men storming Papa Prem's House. Furmore, Ai Jon's request for Dissolvign NLA is just like cutting the umbricle cords of stillborn Baby -> Death ensures ...
REF: http://www.thaipost.net/index.asp?bk=thaipost&post_date=13/Dec/2550&news_id=151943&cat_id=200
Wisarut
13-12-07, 01:07 PM
That's pretty much what Bernard Trink (not my favorite human being by any imagination stretch) would have called 'Human Manure'.
I'm very interested in your comments, Khun Wisaruth. Sometimes it is clear that you are just reporting comments elsewhere. On this occasion, it seems these really are your thoughts on the matter.
Why shouldn't Khun Jon & Khun Ji harbor resentments? Every other Thai politician harbors exactly the same resentments.
I think you have unwittingly made the case for a far more inclusive system than currently exists. It is precisely because these frustrations have been allowed to fester for so long that they are now giving off such a terrible stink.
If you really want to emasculate a hothead, there is no better way to do it than plonk him down in a situation in which he is forced to interact with other overdemanding people. Excluding him from political participation will only allow his overindulgent and ungrounded fantasies to degenerate into a monster.
I look forward to the day when parliament has a few Marxists. After all, we already have more than a few flat-out fascists. I would even welcome a Taiwanese-style parliament, where the political wusses (most of them are essentially physical & mental wimps) can actually beat each other up occasionally. A few more political and physical blackeyes would do their overinflated egos the world of good! I have yet to see either a decent fistfight or even a really good political dust-up in parliament here. Most of the time, they prefer to engage in very cowardly acts of backstabbing treachery.
According to marxist ideology while both Gile and John held as the right pathway, Constitutional Monarchy is just the same primitive system as Absolute Monarchy ... Therfore Overthrowning Monarchy to form either Republican regime or socilist regime by all means - includign violent means - is the RIGHT thing to do! Any attept for Socialist to live togather with Monarchy is the thought of revisionist, should be REJECTED! :eek:
Baton Rouge
13-12-07, 01:51 PM
According to marxist ideology while both Gile and John held as the right pathway, Constitutional Monarchy is just the same primitive system as Absolute Monarchy ... Therfore Overthrowning Monarchy to form either Republican regime or socilist regime by all means - includign violent means - is the RIGHT thing to do! Any attept for Socialist to live togather with Monarchy is the thought of revisionist, should be REJECTED! :eek:
All Hail K!
They are a minority of two, who stand no earthly chance of overthrowing the constitutional monarchy. And anyway, I think you are almost certainly distorting their real belief for your own purposes. The constant insecurity of phoney (tight-arsed) monarchists like Sonthi Limthongkul is actually far more damaging to the constitutional monarchy than a couple of naive Marxists. If you deprive people of the right to choose for themselves, you are pretty much condemning them to a life of frustrated underdevelopment. Small wonder that they they then become completely transfixed by the first political conman who comes along. It is precisely such political miserliness that has brought about this current mess.
PM stays the course on Internal Security bill
(BangkokPost.com) – Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont has stood firm on a decision to implement the Internal Security bill despite angry protesters calling on the National Legislative Assembly not to pass it into law on Monday.
The protesters, comprising mostly of non-governmental organization (NGO) members, led by NGO executive Jon Ungphakorn, stormed parliament on U-Thong Nai road before surrounding the entrances on Monday. The protesters demanded that the NLA stop passing “damaging” bills.
The bills were related to internal security, community forests, water resources management, alcohol advertising controls, broadcasting, privatization of state enterprises and autonomy of universities.
The activists insisted the bills, if passed, would cause irreparable damage to the country.
The premier also expressed confidence that no post-election violence will occur as some had feared. He criticized People Power party (PPP) members for being “over-pessimistic” about their political fate following a threat from the party that the country “will be up in flames” if given orders to disband.
“The Election Commission is doing its best to deliberate on each outstanding case freely and fairly. We must all focus on working together in order to help resolve these problems,” the premier said.
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nganadeeleg
13-12-07, 03:55 PM
According to marxist ideology while both Gile and John held as the right pathway, Constitutional Monarchy is just the same primitive system as Absolute Monarchy ... Therfore Overthrowning Monarchy to form either Republican regime or socilist regime by all means - includign violent means - is the RIGHT thing to do! Any attept for Socialist to live togather with Monarchy is the thought of revisionist, should be REJECTED!
I very much doubt whether Jon or Gi have it in them to be as ruthless as the right wing has been in Thailand - to me, they seem much more reasonable (sensible) than the rightists.
Wisarut
13-12-07, 04:27 PM
I very much doubt whether Jon or Gi have it in them to be as ruthless as the right wing has been in Thailand - to me, they seem much more reasonable (sensible) than the rightists.
At least, Gile and John still have characters of gentlemen ... not the same level as thsoe jerks like Ai Samak ... even though I refuse to share theri viewpoints for sure.
http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=427
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Historic incident: Closure of the NLA
Prachatai
14 December 2007
On 12 October 2007 at 7.00 am more than 1,000 civil society representatives from different networks including the Non-Government Organisations Coordinating Committee on Development (NGO-COD), the Confederation of State Enterprise Labour Unions, the Council of People's Organisations Network in Thailand, the Four Regions Slum Network, the Confederation of Teachers' Societies of Thailand, the Students Federation of Thailand (SFT), the Civil Society Organisation Network, and students and members of the general public, gathered in front of Parliament house intending to stop the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) from continuing its work.
Later at 9.00 am, trucks carrying loud speakers were moved to block the three entrances to parliament, marking the official closure of the parliament by the people.
However, although the three entrances were closed, members of the NLA were still able to gain access to the parliament building through the gate of Chang Ton National Museum (next to Vimanmek Palace). This particular entrance has not been in regularly use except on special occasions such as Children's Day. Therefore the NLA was able to attain a quorum for the meeting to continue as normal.
Declaring the Closure of the NLA
After the closure of the three entrances, Mr. Jon Ungpakorn, Chairperson of NGO-COD, announced that the closing of parliament was being done in a peaceful way to announce that the actions of the NLA are not acceptable. If the NLA plans to examine 40-60 acts in a few days to increase the power of the bureaucrats instead of giving more power to the people, it is unacceptable. He said he regretted that the NLA had passed many bills violating human rights such as the Computer Crime Act. Currently, the most dangerous act under discussion is the draft Internal Security Act (ISA), which will guarantee and establish military power over civilian government in the future.
Mr. Jon also stated that the National Legislative Assembly should change its acronym from NLA to SLA, which means Shameless Assembly. The gathering today was to express the fact that the people cannot accept laws violating people's rights and to demand that NLA members that care about the people's concerns should resign. After that, he read the declaration of the closure of the NLA:
Declaration
Closing the Interim National Legislative Assembly
Stop violating human rights and freedoms
It is clearly evident that the National Legislative Assembly, which was appointed by the military after a coup d'état that seized power from an elected government, had been passing laws to increase the power of the bureaucratic system and further the interests of capitalists. The NLA is destroying the rights and liberties of the people and their communities. Instead of improving the democratic system, Thai society is being taken backward to a system of bureaucratic polity. A series of unacceptable laws is being pushed through, such as:
1) the draft Internal Security Act which increases the power of the military over the state and society;
2) the Community Forest and Water Resources Bill, which attempts to prohibit community rights;
3) the draft law relating to the Management of Radio and Television, which gives state agencies a monopoly of control over radio and television broadcast frequencies;
4) the draft Act on Privatisation Regulations and Standards which will privatise national enterprises vital to the livelihood of the public and put them in the hands of domestic and international corporations;
5) bills regarding the autonomy of six universities, which will turn universities into private enterprises controlled by the market and will prevent the poor from gaining access to education;
and 6) the transportation-related Bill which will transfer transportation businesses to the corporate sector.
We feel that these numerous bills will have serious effects on the freedom and liberties of the people and on democracy; it will not be possible to hold the NLA responsible for these effects after they leave their positions.
We believe that if the current NLA continues to pass laws, even though there are only 13 days left before an election which would return the power to the people; there would be a severe impact on Thai society, which could be irreparable. Therefore we demand that the NLA stop functioning.
We, as citizens of Thailand, declare our right to "Close the Interim National Legislative Assembly, and to Stop Violating the Freedom and Liberty of the People".
Continued in next post
Translated by Pokpong Lawansiri
Thai Language source:
http://www.prachatai.com/05web/th/home/10541
http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=427
Continued from previous post
Surapon Criticises the Demonstrators as "Cynic"
Associate Professor Dr. Surapon Nitikraipoj, an NLA member, gave an interview before attending the meeting and said that if the demonstrators declare that the assembly is illegitimate since it was appointed by the coup plotters, it meant that they thought that the NLA did not have legitimacy since the beginning. But he wanted to ask how, without the NLA, could elections or laws have been initiated. This assembly passed the laws to enable the election to take place. Thai society needs a legislative branch. The demonstrators could be thought of as cynics if they are not happy with certain laws but overgeneralise by saying that the NLA is not legitimate. However, the demonstration by the civil society groups is peaceful, he said.
Before the meeting to discuss the pending acts by the NLA, Ms. Pojanee Thanawaranit, 1st Vice-Chairperson of the NLA and acting Chairperson of the meeting, informed the members that Assoc. Prof. Surichai Wankaew had resigned his NLA membership as of 11 December. However, the Chairperson did not reveal the reasons for his resignation.
Nation journalist Pravit Rojanaphruk said however that the resignation of Assoc. Prof. Surichai is still not enough. Assoc. Prof. Surichai should apologize to the people for playing his role to legitimize the coup plotters and for lubricating the work of the dictators. Pravit also demanded that Associate Professor Surichai donate his salary from working as an NLA member to the Wanida Tantiwittayapitak Fund, since his salary came from taxpayers' money.
Activists Climb the Fence into Parliament Declaring - "No Parliament Meeting Today"
The demonstration outside the parliament continued as representatives from different networks described the reasons why the NLA must stop considering new laws.
At around 11.30 am, Mr. Jon and the leaders of different networks, such as Saree Ongsomwang (Foundation for Consumers), Supinya Klangnarong (Secretary General of the Campaign for Popular Media Reform), Vasan Sitthiket (Artists Party), Nitirat Sapsomboon (Friends of the People), Pairoj Polpetch (Union for Civil Liberty) and other demonstrators brought wooden ladders to climb into parliament. About 20 persons from the first batch were able to climb over and ran to the doors of the parliament building, followed by security officers at the gate. Since the number of officers watching of the gate was reduced, about 60 more demonstrators then successfully climbed into parliament. The entry into parliament was to declare to the NLA that "there is no parliament meeting today."
Wallop Volunteers to Coordinate with Meechai
After the demonstrators climbed inside, they headed directly to the chamber of the parliament. The parliament session was ongoing, but had to be postponed after ten minutes. NLA member Mr. Wallop Tangkananurak came out to meet Mr. Jon, asking what law the demonstrators disagreed with. Mr. Jon explained by giving an extensive list and asked Mr. Wallop to call for a quorum on the assumption that many NLA members came to sign their names but did not really attend the meeting.
Mr. Wallop insisted that there were 140 members in attendance, which made a quorum, and he had recommended the Chairperson of the meeting to postpone the meeting due to the situation. He proposed that after this there should be no more discussion of the 15 recently proposed laws but only laws in the 2nd and 3rd readings.
On the issue of the civil society organizations calling for the NLA to resign, Mr. Wallop said it was a separate issue. He said resignation will not do any good, but he agreed that there are many acts that are big issues that need extensive consultation, not limited consultation. However, he will work as the bridge to bring the demands of the civil society to the Chairperson of the assembly.
Tuenjai Proposes Sending Representatives to Negotiate - Meanwhile Jon Agrees to Retreat if Draft ISA is Withdrawn
NLA member Mrs. Tuenjai Deetes came out to greet the demonstrators and said that she also wished to have a direct discussion between civil society with the NLA, since the demands were reasonable. It is true that the NLA is examining laws close to the election. There are some laws where civil society has extreme concerns, therefore she will propose to the NLA that a mechanism to interface between civil society and the NLA should be established.
When the media asked about the demand of civil society groups for NLA members to resign to show spirit, Mrs. Tuenjai responded that resignations would not do any good, since with her resignation the assembly would still have a quorum and could continue meeting. However, if she stays on, she could campaign for positive laws such as Nationality Act or Citizenship Record Act, which have been thoroughly examined.
At the same time, Mr. Jon responded that he did not know how to negotiate with the NLA since the demand is for the NLA to cease operating. Civil society is aware that the reason for the continuation of the NLA meeting is for to push for the draft ISA. The people will not accept this. However if the draft ISA is formally withdrawn, negotiations could taken place, he said.
Meechai States the NLA has to Perform its Role According to the Constitution
Journalists reported that NLA Chairperson Mr. Meechai Ruchupan, after arriving at Parliament House from his medical check-up at a hospital, called for a meeting with relevant personnel such as NLA Secretary-General Ms. Suwimon Phumsingharat,; NLA and Parliament Property Director; NLA member Mr. Visanu Krue-ngarm; 1st Army Commander Lt-General Prayuth Chan-ocha; Assistant Police Chief Pol Lt-General Watcharaphol Prasanratchakit; Metropolitan Police Commander Pol Lt-General Asawin Kwanmuang; Dusit Police Station Superintendent Pol Col Prachai Jaicharnsukkit,. The main topic of discussion was ways of dealing with the demonstration. The meeting ended after an extensive one-hour discussion.
Mr. Meechai proposed to the police officers that the demonstrators be driven out of the parliament building so that the meeting could continue by 1.30 pm, but there was a feeling that this could lead to more dissatisfaction and greater conflict. Therefore Mr. Meechai decided to convene a press conference calling for the indefinite postponement of the session.
During the press conference, Mr. Meechai Ruchupan expressed sorrow at the disturbing situation which occurred in the morning and guaranteed that the NLA meeting would be postponed indefinitely.
However, he said that the NLA had to continue its role of in examining the laws as cited in the constitution. The NLA has the mandate to carry on its work until the beginning of the new assembly. He mentioned that in the past there has not been a case of trying to pass certain specific laws. In response to the demand for the NLA to resign, he said it will have an impact on the new government, because the NLA has obligations under the constitution. But if the people feel that there are certain laws that they are unhappy with, the new government can abolish or amend those laws.
1 Day ‘Closure of the Assembly' Successful
As the demonstrators continued to protest, Mr. Meechai called an end the meeting for the day. The demonstrators then returned outside. Mr. Jon declared on the stage in front of the parliament that civil society had been successful in pressuring the NLA to postpone its meeting today. However, this is not the ultimate success because the role of civil society is ultimately to end the role of the NLA. However, the people had learnt today that we cannot accept atrocious laws and this is a historic event where they had been able to get into the assembly chamber.
"The Chairperson of the SLA (Shameless Assembly) stated without shame that the role of the assembly is to continue examine the laws even though he was not elected by a single person. The chairperson can continue serving dictators in every government. Therefore we will meet again. There will be more mass demonstrations. This victory should be presented in all media in the nation. If there are laws that violate people's rights, we cannot accept that", Mr. Jon said.
Mr. Jon also said that the resignation of NLA members will show who is standing side by side with the people, and who is supporting dictators. At least, the resignation of Assoc Prof Surichai Wan'kaew shows that he stands with the people. However, it shows that those who continue to stay as NLA members have dictatorial hearts and we will continue our struggle.
News reports also said that Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Social Development and Human Security Mr. Paiboon Wattanasiritham, and Minister of the Prime Minister's Office Mr. Thirapat Serirangsan would invite Mr. Jon to a meeting at Government House on 13 December, since the government fears that the demonstrations might escalate into violence and could be affect the upcoming election on the 23 December.
Translated by Pokpong Lawansiri
Thai Language source:
http://www.prachatai.com/05web/th/home/10541
14 December 2007
NLA will not submit to demonstrators
The National Legislative Assembly (NLA) has avowed to press on with its duties despite heavy opposition by non-government organizations and citizens network that have rallied in front of the Parliament for several days. The NLA stated that it would not submit to pressure and accusations of infringement on rights as it is only performing its duty.
The assembly stated that as the bills to be discussed had already been through the legal processes to be brought up, the group would have to consider them during their meetings. As for bills that had already been passed the assembly said demonstrators were free to dispute them and bring their issues up through the correct channels. The NLA also reminded that after the election it will no longer be responsible for the making and amending of laws.
A bill that was heavily criticized by the demonstrators was the Internal Security bill. Prime Minister General Surayud Chulanont though has stepped up on the issue, saying he felt the bill was an important part of the nation’s security and that he was confident it was a beneficial act.
Reporter : RTI-Reporter01
http://thainews.prd.go.th/newsenglish/previewnews.php?news_id=255012140001
http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=425
Legal Eagle
Harrison George
14 December 2007
Alien Thoughts
This is confusing.
We have an interim legislative body, not elected but appointed by a military junta. That's not very democratic.
This group of generals got the authority to appoint this legislature not through any constitutional means, but by force of arms. That's not democratic at all, but hey, they're generals, what would they know?
The temporary legislature was given the major task of getting a new constitution written and approved. In the meantime, it would keep the engine of government ticking over until an elected parliament could take up the reins. Not really democratic, but as long as they behaved themselves, it was probably the best we could hope for.
So we have a referendum to approve this constitution but it's held partly under martial law, and the military refuse to explain what happens if the ‘no' votes win. People supporting a ‘no' vote get harassed and the provinces that vote ‘no' suddenly find themselves back under martial law. That sort of looks sort of democratic, but once you scratch the surface, it's not really.
So now we've got a constitution and, despite the shady characters and the likely vote-buying and the one-sided military memos and the relentless picking on the PPP to the point where I'm in danger of feeling sorry for Samak, an election campaign of sorts is underway. So what does the National Legislative Assembly decide to do in the last sunset days before its demise? They go into hyperdrive and start passing laws at a rate never before seen in Thai legislative history.
This is not nuts and bolts stuff without which the taps would run dry. Nor is it minor stuff that will do pro tem until an elected parliament can look at it properly. Nor is it short-term stuff that can be reversed as soon as it looks iffy.
The NLA is busy drafting legislation that seriously affects people's lives. It will make water the property of the state so they can charge farmers for using it. It will make the airwaves the property of the state so that the state can control more easily what news we can get. It will give the Ministry of Agriculture its long-cherished goal of being able to tell farmers what to grow. It will give university administrations, overriding the wishes of the teachers and students, a form of autonomy that will let them fire the teachers and increase the students' fees.
And in the form of the Internal Security Bill, it goes a long way to neutralizing that pseudo-democratic decision that was made back in August when the constitution was approved in the referendum. It's not much use having a constitution protecting rights and freedoms if you then put a law on the books giving Internal Security Operations Command the power to ignore those rights. And immunity from any punishment for doing so.
The NLA already has a track record for trampling on rights and freedoms. They passed a Cyber Crime Law that has Prachatai nervously glancing at the windows, wondering when the goons will start piling through.
Now this is seriously un-democratic.
So on the morning of 12 December a group of people decided to do something about it and tried, peacefully, to shut down the NLA.
Enter Meechai Ruchupan, who must hold the world's constitution-writing record, a man who has served both democratically-elected governments (though he doesn't bother getting elected himself) and dictatorships.
Scurrying back from an interrupted health check-up (I just hope he wasn't in the middle of a proctologic exam when he heard the news), he denounces this attempt to stop an undemocratic Assembly doing some decidedly undemocratic things.
The protestors, he says ‘don't understand the democratic mechanism'.
Erm.
Which democratic mechanism was that exactly? The one that appoints car dealers to parliament just because they have thrown a nice bit of business the way of a constitution-shredding general? The one that conducts a referendum in a blatantly partisan manner to get a constitution passed that ISOC doesn't have to bother about anyway? Or the one that prefers to bulldoze laws through at the rate of 5 a day in preference to waiting just a couple of weeks for a democratically-elected parliament to take over?
It's all very well for a Privy Council President to tell us that this man's an ‘ace legal expert'. But he's obviously working from his own novel definition of democracy.
Perhaps "bow to popular sentiment"?:
20 December 2007
Demonstrators agree to disperse
Demonstrators from the Citizens Network, led by Jon Ungpaporn (จอน อึ๊งภากรณ์) have agreed to disperse to alleviate pressure on the National Legislative Assembly (NLA). The group though, affirms that it will not leave the issue of 8 bills which the group feels may impede on freedom and rights.
The group have vowed to return until the NLA desists from meeting on the 8 bills which are projected to be discussed by December 27th. The demonstrators stated that if the 8 bills pass, they will seek out 10,000 names to petition to revocation of the laws.
The protestors agreed to disperse to bog down sentiment, but have vowed to return.
Reporter : RTI-Reporter01
Wisarut
20-12-07, 01:26 PM
The Perils of Democracy without Freedom and Liberty
Column COmmonsense by Thawee Mee-Nguen
Prachachat Thurakij - 20 December 2007
After readging "The Perils of Democracy without Freedom and Liberty" by Farish Zakaria, it hes helped me to clearify my puzzle and frustration from those Highbrow Thai intellectuals at the university level.
Those Highbrow Thai intellectuals at the university level keep PARROTTING that "Dictator government is NO good - Thaksin Governemtn sill have more legitimacy than the unelected Government of Surayut and Big Bung since Thaksin has been elected by People!"
Farish Zakaria has pointed out Democracy is NOT good at itself, contrasting against the veiwpoints of those Highbrow intellectuals.
Furthermore Zakaria has pointed out that Democrary must be applied alogn with Liberalism under the rule of constitution. This implied that election ALONE is NOT enough for good democracy. Real Democrarcy is Democracy with Freedom and Liberty whcih RESPECT right and liberty of people with functioning mechanism to limit state power from being ABUSED to harm the liberty of people.
This definitiion of democracy by Zakaria also implied that Thaksin government is just democracy WITHOUT Freedom and Liberty - ONLY having 4-second liberty to vote ...adn the our soverign have been LOST to those politicians with power whcih do NO GOOD at all!
How can those intellectuals consider themselves as protectors of Democracy when they have cooperated with those politicians who advocated democracy WITHOUT Freedom and Liberty?
5 Years fo Thaksin Regime has raised the question whether we have REAL democracy at all. The leader who REFUSE to participate the parliamentary sessions to EXPLAIN governemnt's policies and give the Answers to those representatives is considered as a DICTATOR since he did NOt give a DAMN on hte Democracy process.
Fruthermore, the frequent cabinate shuffles to avoid the censure are the obstractive measures prevent public scrutinies on the government.
The series of systematic abuses not ONLY showign the disrespect of democratic process but it also denied the chance from the government and national assembly to make a joint discussion to find the way to break the deadlock without askign Army to beark the deadlock.
If the Government had paid more respect to the National Assembly to allow a
chance to discuss and listen the reasons each other, the coup would be ABORTED at the first place.
The further list of ABUSES can be shown as follows
1. The Governemtn Practice of Cronyism and Nepotism by sending their kinsmen and cronies to control independent agencies as well as bureacratic systems and Armed Forces. Furthermore, the governemtnb keep protecting the croneis and kinsmens even though tey RAPE and PILLAGE people with IMPUNITY!
2. Cabinate Dissolution to avoid censure alogn with snap election on 2 April 2006.
3. Hiring the thuggish and mecenary Caravans of the Poor to fight AGINST PAD as the way to COW people from criticizing government.
4. Media interference through the threats of pulling out the advertising money from the media with independent minds who dare toe criticize the government.
These abuses symtoms from the "Democracy without Freedom and Liberty" virus whcih come to sicken and KILL the people whcih nobody care.
Society will be plagued with disunity since "Democracy without Freedom and Liberty" allows governemtn to ABUSE mroe and more people and people will eventually take Civil War in theri own hand even though it will lead to failed states ....
How Temerity the highbrow intellectuals to support the Democracy without Freedom and Liberty. Are they goign to let people die without propered treatment?
This a warnign that Democracy is NOT just going to case the ballots ... We need to keep monitoring those electioneers to prevent them from ABUSE freedom and liberty of people.
http://matichon.co.th/prachachat/prachachat_detail.php?s_tag=02edi05201250&day=2007-12-20§ionid=0212
It would, of course, almost certainly be far too much to hope that the ISA will be primarily used to keep future Thaksin's in check. Historical example demonstrates, in dollops, that it will also be used as an implement of oppression against almost anything - major or minor - that disrupts the cosy monopoly of the military/business elite. We only need to look to Malaysia, where this article originated, to see numerous examples of an ISA being abused to maintain the easy lifestyle of the few.
With regard to the previous post, isn't it more a case of THEM Vs THEM (the gentrified cut-and-thrust of the military academy's endless rivalries) with US on the sideline (fit only to fence in bloody elections & civil wars)? Doubtless Thaksin had his own ISA in mind, once/if he had managed to clear ISOC of its die-hard royalists: :D
Thai's NLA Overwhelmingly Passes Internal Security Bill
BANGKOK, Dec 21 (Bernama) -- Thailand's military-appointed National Legislative Assembly voted overwhelmingly on Thursday to approve the much-criticised Internal Security Bill amid outcries from protesters gathering outside Parliament demanding that the NLA not to pass the bill as there are only two days left before the December 23 general election.
Thailand News Agency (TNA) reported that with a speedy deliberation, the bill sailed through with 105-8 votes and two abstentions.
Hundreds of protesters who earlier dispersed, however, vowed to collect at least 10,000 signatures to amend the law.
Rights advocates and critics voiced concern over Thailand's Internal Security Bill which confers sweeping powers to the military to take very wide-ranging actions with little accountability, warning that the measure could violate international human rights standards as well as further jeopardise human rights in the country.
The new law empowers the prime minister as head of the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) and the Army commander as deputy chief of the top national security body to bar public gatherings, restrict citizens' freedom of movement, place anyone under house arrest and close down roads or transportation routes.
The legislation was proposed by the interim government of Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont installed after the then army commander Gen Sonthi Boonyaratkalin staged a bloodless coup last year to oust elected then-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who had been accused of corruption and abuse of power.
-- BERNAMA
Non-specific link:
http://www.bernama.com.my/
Wisarut
23-12-07, 04:42 PM
After I talkk with my sister in law, she had told me that those instructors in SWU (Sri Nakharintharawiroj University Prasarnmitr campus) is brainwashing their students to keep Blaming the Military government with Black May VCD, Ocotber 1973 VCD and October 6 VCD, without making ANY dseeep analyses on the event ...
ANy strdents who write the opinions NOT inlione with left wing instructors will get F, no matter how good they are writign the paper!
This is a clear sing that many of those Octoberists have to turng the new generation into the foot soliders of the left wing dictators to counter right wing dictors whcih also run by theri fellow octoberists weho DISAGREE with them, a clear sign that octoberists people turn theri back to the REAL Democracy (Domocracy with Liberety) by turning to suppport Democracy WITHOUT Liberetry instead. Such a kind of action weill turn Octoberists tpo be histiorical derelics.
Now, Manager Daily Columnistssaid Unless the Old Ginger have made a quick reform of itself ... after 15 month failture of Surayut, it will be derelic pieces of History by self-destruction in the same way as Ai Maew who was defeated by self-destructive process.
http://www.manager.co.th/politics/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9500000152305
Now PPP hoped to become single government due to the predicted 256 seat out of 480 by Exit Poll of Suan Dusit
http://thaiinsider.info/portal/content/view/5363/12/
UDD men are goign to Sanam Luang after gettign the final results
http://thaiinsider.info/portal/content/view/5361/12/
Ai Liab said he is going to get a coalition for 300 seat of MP to ensure stability ... wghile asking Demoicrat NOT to set up a shadow government.
http://thaiinsider.info/portal/content/view/5357/12/
Ekkayut and Co Weekly News Analyses: Ai Maew is baling that BMA taking side with Democrat too much and Pap Prem is takign side with Democrat.
BTW, Ai Yongyut and Ai Chaloem are also askign Papa prem to retire from Political areana (Privy Council) since he takes side ewith Democrat.
... durign the Speech at Sanam Luang ... a scheme to kick Ai Samak Upstair for sure ...
PApa Prem's and Surayut's power are at the waining stage after the stock holdign scandal wehich force Big Aree Wongaraya to resign - losing mechanic to control the votes in rural area ...
http://thaiinsider.info/portal/content/view/5346/23/
Ai Maew Rapping AGAINST Pap prem via Your Tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRcj9WDo_lU&feature=related
Joemsak said even PPP is winnign the election, AI Samak may not be able to run the country due teh pending case of Nominee and violating election rules aloign with the pending case Libel Suit against Ajarn Samart.
Even those Octoberists within PPP should think about takign power for themselves since it would be a Betrayal to their fallen comrades by Ai Samak during 6 Ocotber 1976 Massacre.
Evne Ai Samak is tryign to whitewash himself alogn with 111 TRT men, they would be surprised by the His Majesty's Vetoes -> refusing to sign the bills that whitewash TRT men.
If His Majesty refuses to approve Ai Samak and his cabinate, they would lose the legitimacy tro run the county!
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/2007/12/23/WW10_WW10_news.php?newsid=214281
Intellectual said othjere partioes wiiol abandon PPP.
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/2007/12/23/WW10_WW10_news.php?newsid=214217
Jon to face criminal action for Parliament intrusion
The police are preparing to take criminal action against activist Jon Ungpakorn and his supporters for intrusion at Parliament House on two occasions and trying to interrupt the National Legislative Assembly sessions earlier this month.
Deputy Bangkok police chief Major-General Jate Mongkholhatthee said about 15 per cent of the evidence, mostly images from security cameras and media footage, had been compiled against Jon and 18 supporters. Charges of trespassing on government property are being prepared.
Jate said the police were being careful with the case because it was a sensitive matter and could subject the force to public criticism over freedom of expression.
Jon led 400 people into the Parliament House compound on December 12 and 14 to pressure the NLA to stop legislating and leave the job to elected members of the House after the general election.
The Nation
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30060493
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30060493
It seems an arrest warrant is out on Jon Ungpakorn. I can't bring you a report because the RSS feed is acting up. :mad:
It finally turned up two days later on another site. Oh well! I suppose it will make a nice change from the more normal sexual misdemeanors of ex-senators: :p
Police prepare arrest warrants on 4 charges against 6 NGO leaders of invasion of NLA: Jon readies legal defence
Prachatai
11 January 2008
News
9 Jan 2008 At Metropolitan Police Headquarters, Deputy Metropolitan Police Commander Pol Maj Gen Jate Mongkolhattee, in his capacity as leader of the investigating team, called a 2-hour meeting to follow up on progress in the case of the group who climbed the fence of parliament on 12 December 007 to call for the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) to halt deliberations.
Pol Maj Gen Jate said that investigators had collected clear evidence in the form of documents, pictures and witness statements. This was sufficient to seek the court's permission to issue arrest warrants on 14 January on 4 charges against the leaders of the group. These are: trespass using violence by collaborating with more than 21 persons to commit an offence; gathering with more than 10 persons to use force to create a public disturbance; gathering more than 5 persons to force others to act against their will; and illegal detention. The maximum punishment is 5 years imprisonment.
"For the remaining persons involved, we have to wait for additional investigation of the evidence before we can make arrests in this case," the head of the investigation team said.
News reports said that it was expected that the list of the leaders who would be served with arrest warrants at this time included Jon Ungphakorn, former Senator for Bangkok.
Former Senator Jon Ungphakorn and other leaders of the group said that they thought they should be served subpoenas rather than arrest warrants since before arrest warrants are issued, the accused must be summoned to hear the charges and make a statement. If the Royal Thai Police proceeds in this way, the accused have a team of lawyers ready to contest the charges. None of the group has fled and they are prepared to face the accusations and fight the case.
http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=474
Police call up 11 activists
The Nation
15 January 2008
Pick to Post
Police yesterday summoned activist Jon Ungpakorn and 10 fellow activists to hear charges related to their forced entry into Parliament House in December to disrupt the National Legislative Assembly as it deliberated several laws.
The 11 have been charged with six criminal offences including trespassing and coercion. They are required to meet police next Tuesday at 9.30am at the Metropolitan Police Bureau to acknowledge the offences. They will face arrest if they fail to show up, said deputy MPB chief Jate Mongkholhatthee.
Jate said the 11 were entitled to their opinion and freedom of expression under the new constitution, but their intrusion onto government property and disruption of the NLA session were criminal offences and a violation of other people's rights.
Among the 11 are Media Reform Campaign head Supinya Klangnarong, Customers' Network leader Saree Ongsomwang and state enterprise labour union leaders Sawit Kaewwan and Amnart Phalamee.
http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=483
NGO protesters hear charges against them
(BangkokPost.com) – Ten NGO protesters led by leading NGO activist Jon Ungphakorn have appeared before the Special Branch Police Chief to hear five charges against them.
All ten of them were charged for storming into parliament building at the end of last year, forcing the NLA to adjourn its session. The protesters called on the NLA to stop passing controversial bills which they claimed were a violation of human rights and could lead to social deterioration.
The bills include plans to give three state universities autonomous status, a bill on water resources and a bill on radio and television broadcasting.
Mr Jon and nine other NGO’s denied all charges against them insisting that they were merely exercising a basic constitutional right. They expressed readiness to co-operate with interrogators.
Non-specific link:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=125348
Prosecutors to decide Parliament break in case in June
Public prosecutors will announce its decision on June 5, whether to indict Jon Ungpakorn and nine others for breaking into Parliament building on Dec 12.
Police charge Jon and nine political activists with staging an intrusion by force, assembling to cause unrest, detaining others against their will and using loudspeakers without permission.
The other nine are Sirichai Mai-ngarm, Supinya Klangnarong, Saree Ongsomwang, Sawit Kaewwan, Pichit Chaimongkol, Anirut Khaosanit, Nussor Yeema, Amnart Plamee and Pairoj Polphet.
Nititorn Lamlua, lawyer of the ten suspects said he had already submitted a letter to the Attorney General seeking justice reasoning that the suspects exercised the constitutional right to peaceful gathering.
They trespassed on the parliament building to stop the legislators from passing laws, which they argued was not the job of the interim parliament with an election pending, he said.
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