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GWR
24-08-06, 02:00 PM
Thaksin sacks Gen Pallop

Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra sacks Internal Security Operation Command (ISOC)'s Deputy Director Gen Pallop Pinmanee after an ISOC officer was arrested for owning a car which has explosives inside near PM's residence.

It is reported that Gen Pallop is informed of the immediate dismissal.

Police bomb experts defused a bomb hidden in a car, owned by Lt Thawatchai Klinchana, of ISOC, near the residence of Thaksin Shinawatra and detained a suspect Thursday.

Two sticks of dynamite, each weighing 0.45 kilograms and some fertilizer were discovered inside the vehicle.

Police intelligence information showed that the vehicle was driven back and forth near Thaksin's residence and a security guard of the prime minister urged police to chase and stop it.

The Nation


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/24/headlines/headlines_30011872.php

GWR
24-08-06, 02:08 PM
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Bomb squad officers inspect a car after intercepting it near caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra’s Bangkok residence yesterday. Police explosives experts defused a bomb hidden in the car and detained a suspect. [IHT-ThaiDay]

Police defuse bomb near residence of Thai prime minister

Police explosive experts defused a bomb hidden in a car near the residence of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and detained a suspect Thursday, police said.

"The bomb experts have defused the bomb and the car is being towed to a safe place for further checking," police said.

Police detained an army officer, identified as Lt Thawatchai Klinchana, driver of the car whose bore fake license. He was taken to the police Crime Suppression Division for interrogation.

Two sticks of dynamite, each weighing 0.45 kilograms, and some fertilizer were discovered inside the vehicle.

Pol Maj Gen Aswin Khwanmuang, deputy chief of the Central Investigation Bureau, said that 4.5-kilogram bomb was found in the car belonging to Thawatchai.

ITV reported that the vehicle was driven back and forth near Thaksin's residence and a security guard of the prime minister urged police to chase and stop it.

The Nation


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/24/headlines/headlines_30011871.php

http://www.manager.co.th/IHT/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000108200

GWR
24-08-06, 02:51 PM
It is perhaps unlikely that Thailand's official media will ever be able to report the full facts behind this incident. I don't think I ever saw a definitive version of events for the incident in which a plane caught on fire just before PM Thaksin was due to get on board, some years back

I'd like to invite readers to add to these reports.

GWR
24-08-06, 03:30 PM
Police defuse bomb near PM's residence

Police on Thursday found and defused two sticks of dynamites in car outside caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's residence.

Two people who tried to flee were arrested and are being interrogated by police

The two suspects, one a lieutenant, were identified as soldiers attached to the Thai army's Internal Security Operations Command, according to the army's spokesman, Colonel Akkara Thiprote.

In addition, two bags of urea fertilizer, which is often used in making bombs, were also found in the car.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011874

GWR
24-08-06, 03:54 PM
Army officer arrested in alleged car bomb attempt is Pallop's driver: Police

An army officer, who was arrested while driving a car with bomb, is a driver of sacked Internal Security Operation Command (ISOC)'s Deputy Director Gen Pallop Pinmanee, police said.

Pol Maj Gen Assawin Kwanmuang, deputy commissioner of Central Investigation Bureau, said the army officer, who was arrested driving the car, was found out to be a driver of Pallop.

The officer carried an identification card as Lt Thawatchai Klinchana.

But police said the card appeared to be fake.

Following the defusing the bomb near his house, caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra sacked Pallop as deputy ISOC director.

The Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011881

GWR
24-08-06, 05:09 PM
Thaksin says he knows about attempts on his life two weeks ago


Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra claimed Thursday that he had known about a plot to assassinate him for two weeks.

Thaksin also claimed to know the identities of those who made attempts on his life.

He said he left home earlier than normal schedule Thursday because he had a meeting at 8:30 am.

The NationThaksin says he knows about attempts on his life two weeks ago


Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra claimed Thursday that he had known about a plot to assassinate him for two weeks.

Thaksin also claimed to know the identities of those who made attempts on his life.

He said he left home earlier than normal schedule Thursday because he had a meeting at 8:30 am.

The Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011882

Thaksin holds meeting of top brass


Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra holds an urgent meeting of the military top brass and national police chief at Government House following the finding of bomb in a car near his house.

Thaksin held a meeting with the commanders of the three armed forces together with Defence Minister Gen Thamarak Isarangura at 3 pm.

The police chief attended the meeting at 3:30 pm.

Before the meeting with the top brass, Thaksin held a meeting with Gen Winai Phattiyakul, secretary-general of the National Security Council, Pol Col Jumpol Munmai, director of the National Intelligence Agency, Gen Pornchai Kranlert, deputy army chief, and Gen Anupong Paojinda, commander of the First Army Area.

The Nation



http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011883

GWR
24-08-06, 05:55 PM
Pallop denies planning assassination attempt against Thaksin



Gen Pallop Pinmanee, sacked deputy director of the Internal Security Operation Command, Thursday denied he had planned to assassinate caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Pallop told a press conference after Thaksin sacked him as deputy ISOC director that had he really planned to do it, the assassination attempt would have not failed.

Pollop said Lt Thawatchai Klinchana, who was arrested for hiding bomb inside his car found parked near Thaksin's house, was no longer his driver because the army officer had been deployed to work in the deep South three months ago.

The Nation


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011887

ncr
24-08-06, 08:52 PM
Pallop told a press conference after Thaksin sacked him as deputy ISOC director that had he really planned to do it, the assassination attempt would have not failed.Interesting statement, to say the least..... :eek: :D

Yappofloyd
24-08-06, 10:04 PM
^Khun ncr, yes very honest and forthright, maybe letting Taksin know who really can call the shots when they want?

Bernie
25-08-06, 09:36 AM
This alleged plot has all the earmarks of a bogus incident. First Toxin is attacked by an airplane air conditioner. Now he claims to have "narrowly escaped" a bomb that (according to published police reports) was not wired to explode. It is very curious that a scant couple of hours after the car was "discovered", the police called in the press to view all of the components neatly laid out and labeled; they should have had those components in a forensic lab trying to track down lot numbers and sources. And the fertilizer was not mixed with any fuel. The alleged fuel was in separate containers. All that stuff would have likely done is burn. To be sure, the explosives (TNT and C4) could have exploded if wired, but remember . . . they weren't wired. The whole thing smells of a political ploy. The bad guys in the South must be watching this latest episode of Keystone Kops with very great interest.

GWR
25-08-06, 10:06 AM
Time of events

9am

Bang Phlat police station was informed that a bronze-coloured Daewoo car, driven suspiciously near the prime minis?ter's home, had been stopped by the PM's security officers, who found explosive devices in it. They detained an army officer, identified as Lt Thawatchai Klinchana, driving the car, whose licence was fake. He was taken to the Police Crime Suppression Division for questioning.

9.30am

Police and five bomb squad officers arrived to check the car parked on the side of of Rajvithi Rd, Bang Phlat, 400 metres from the PM's residence. The officers allegedly found "explosive devices", including 3.5 pounds of C-4, two sticks of TNT, a detonator, four sandbags, two gallons of benzine and some fer?tiliser.



11am

The officers finished destroying the "explosive devices" - with a water gun - and the car was towed to a safe place for fur?ther checks.

12am

Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra sacked Pallop as deputy ISOC director.

2pm

Lt Thawatchai said to the police that he had no idea that the explosive devices were hidden in the car. He was only paid Bt200 by a friend with to drive the car from the scene to Suan Oui.


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/25/headlines/headlines_30011957.php

Doubts over Thaksin's lucky escape

News about an assassination attempt against caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was greeted with some suspicion as security and intelligence officers said there were too many questions to support such a claim.


All sorts of conspiracy theories were floated as news reports unfolded to the public about how an Army lieutenant was planning to use 67 kilograms of explosives to assassinate Thaksin.


Former security tsar Prasong Soonsiri said the incident was a set-up to divert attention from the political turmoil the government is experiencing.


He said the incident could lead to the issuing of the controversial Emergency Law to clamp down on the government's political opponents.


Others believe the incident


will give the premier the needed bargaining chip to put his supporters in key security positions at the upcoming annual reshuffle.


Thaksin said it "was his lucky day for leaving home earlier". He claimed to have been heading to an emergency meeting on the flood crisis in the North, which he had called for an hour ahead of his scheduled appointments, the times of which are usually made known in advance.


The assassination claim highlighted the statement made on Sunday by Thai Rak Thai Party executive Pairote Suwanchawee, who used the term "suicide bomber" to describe tactics employed by a handful of anti-Thaksin protestors at the Siam Paragon shopping complex in Bangkok.


Making such a comparison without explanation baffled many people, with claims it was an irresponsible statement that could have caused grave misunderstanding among the public and international community.


In what was seen as an unprecedented act, Thaksin's security people were extremely helpful with the media, providing photographers with pictures of Lieutenant Thawatchai Klinchana and the explosive materials found in the vehicle.


Thaksin said yesterday that he had been the target of failed assassination plots on at least two occasions in the past two weeks. He claimed one happened when he was getting off his official plane at the Don Muang airforce base, but he did not elaborate.


The premier has made similar claims over the past six years, although none has been proven.


A military strategist also pointed out that the explosive devices in the car yesterday were not assembled or ready to be detonated.


Conflicting statements were issued throughout the day. Initially, investigators on the ground said the bomb was not assembled, but the chief of the Metropolitan Police, Lt-General Wiroj Jantharangsee, told a press conference in the afternoon that it was assembled and ready to be set off.


Wiroj paraded all the evidence to the media while National Intelligence Agency chief General Chumpol Munmai concluded that the devices were meant to assassinate the premier.


There were no word on who was the suspected mastermind of the plot.


But the military strategist pointed out that if the devices were meant to explode as Thaksin passed by, they should have been assembled so that they could be set off instantly. He said it would take at least an hour to assemble all the devices.


"If somebody wanted to kill Thaksin with that amount of explosives, all they had to do was park their car next to the front of Thaskin's residence and jump on a waiting motorbike before detonating the bomb from a distance," he said.


He dismissed suggestions that Internal Security Operation Command (ISOC) Deputy Director Pallop Pinmanee was behind the plot, saying Pallop had always been close to Thaksin.


Pallop was immediately sacked without any real investigation.


Lt-General Pirat Sawamiwat, a former classmate of Pallop, said if the ousted deputy ISOC chief was behind any assassination attempt, the victim would not have survived.


Moreover, if the vehicle was in fact a car bomb, why did the driver repeatedly circle around Thaksin's residential area during the rush-hour, making the vehicle noticeable and creating suspicion?


Thawatchai, who built his career as an Army intelligence officer, said he was paid Bt200 by an unnamed friend to deliver the car from the spot where he was arrested to nearby Soi Suan Oy, according to a police source.


Thawatchai's knowledge of ordnance is still not known.


Yesterday's incident came amid mounting demands on the government for an explanation after it was revealed that two petty criminals who carried out the beating of anti-Thaksin demonstrators at the Central World shopping complex were in fact political thugs.


The news effectively pushed aside the previous contentious headlines - from the fist fight at Central World to the probe into the Kularb Kaew controversy.


The Commerce Ministry has yet to make a decision on whether Kularb Kaew was an alien company or a nominee for Temasek Holdings, the Singaporean government's financial arm that took over Shin Corp Plc.


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/25/headlines/headlines_30011946.php

GWR
25-08-06, 11:21 AM
I suspect Thawatchai is genuinely rueing the day he ever thought he could cut a dash in the intelligence community of Thailand. For a group of people who continually talk about loyalty, either side in this conflict of interests makes for a distinctly antisocial and disloyal bedmate. Here's a photograph of Thawatchai shortly after his arrest by Special Branch [IHT-ThaiDay]: -
http://pics.manager.co.th/Images/549000012658702.JPEG

Police closely watch army officer for fear of suicide

Police on duty at the Crime Suppression Division closely monitors the army officer arrested Thursday related to the alleged bomb plot to kill the premier for fear that he might try to commit suicide.

Police at the CSD head office checks Lt Thawatchai Klinchana, 43, every 15 minutes.

Thawatchai was arrested when he was about to get into a car carrying explosive devices near the home of caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Thursday.

The Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011954

GWR
25-08-06, 03:58 PM
This might go down to posterity as the 'Two Hundred Baht Bomb Conspiracy'. Why immortalise whoever planned this in any other way than as being a bit of a cheapskate!?

Methinks Chamlong might have something harsh to say about the following PM comment, unless he has already given it the nod: -

Four military officers involved in bomb plot: Thaksin

Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said Friday that at least four military officers were involved in the plot to assassinate him with car bomb.

Thaksin said most of the officers are still in military services.

Thaksin said the car found with bomb outside his house had left the compound of the Internal Security Command.

He said the investigation so far did not find any involvement by Chamlong Srimuang, a leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, who is a close friend of former ISOC deputy director Gen Pallop Pinmanee.


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30011967

GWR
25-08-06, 06:57 PM
The Crime Supression Division are turning cartwheels to encourage TV viewers not to prejudge this case. A 'hoax' is surely a term for a piece of tomfoolery. Bernie's 'bogus incident' would make more sense. And there appears to be nothing here that would rule out a 'bogus incident' just yet. The general public has a perfect right to view this as a possible piece of deception. It certainly wouldn't be the first time, would it? The public might just benefit from letting both sides sweat on this one. Why let either side off the hook too easily? They are both more sinning than sinned against: -

It is not a hoax : police spokesman

Police have reiterated that the assassination plot against caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was not a hoax, saying the car that was founded loaded with explosive devices on Thursday had also been seen at many other places the premier went to.

Police spokesman Pol LtGeneral Achirawit Supanpesat said the premier's security staff had noticed the explosiveladen car, which was to have been driven by Lietenant Thawatchai Klinchana on Thursday.

"Police investigation into the matter has corroborated the observations of the premier's security staffs about the car. It was found appearing at many places where the premier went," the spokesman said.


Thawatchai was arrested on Thursday after police found a Daewoo car he was driving was loaded with heavy explosive devices. It is still unclear whether the explosives were assembled and ready to be detonated.


Achirawit said Lt Thawatchai insisted that he had just been hired to drive the car.


"However, when he was confronted with evidence that the car left the Internal Security Organisation Command early in the morning, he stopped repeating earlier claims. He has, however, maintained he was not involved in the assassination plot," he said.


The licence of the vehicle was genuine, issued by Land Transportation Department. The owner of the vehicle would be summoned for questioning, the spokesman said.


Bomb experts insisted that if the explosives' circuits had been connected, it would have had an impact over a radius of around one kilometre.


The police spokesman said the assassination plot was not a hoax as the premier's motorcades would have passed the place where the suspect had parked his bombladen vehicle.


"We believe there are more than two people involved in the attempt. When we have solid evidence, we will ask for arrest warrants," the spokesman said.


At the moment, Thawatchai is charged only for being in possession of explosives without permits. "By law, preparing to commit suicide is not considered an offence."


The spokesman urged all sides to cease speculation and wait until the police investigation was complete.


The Nation





http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/25/headlines/headlines_30012002.php

GWR
25-08-06, 08:02 PM
Gen Pallop'll resign as advisor to defence minister

Sacked Deputy Director of Internal Security Operation Command (Isoc) Gen Pallop Pinmanee said Defence Minister Gen Thammarak Israngura ordered him to resign as advisor to the defence minister.

He would also resign from being member of Thai Rak Thai, Pallop said.

Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has sacked Pallop on Thursday after an Isoc officer, Lt Thawatchai Klinchana was arrested for driving a car loaded with explosive devices and was linked to assassination plot against Thaksin. Thawatchai was a former driver of Pallop some years ago.

"Gen Trairong Intaratat, the defence minister's chief of staff, called me this morning, saying that Thammarak want me to resign as his advisor. If I refuse, he would sack me," Pallop said.

"How can I refuse the minister's order? With all my pride and dignity, I would submit my resignation. I will also resign from being member of Thai Rak Thai Party," he said.

The 70yearold general said there are still many questions lingering from information given by police about the assassination plot.

"Police said the vehicle left Isoc headquarter at 5.45am on Thursday. From there to where the car was found would take about 20 minutes or at about 6am. The premier said he escaped the plot as he left home earlier than usual or at about 8.30am. So anyone who wanted to assassinate the premier had about two hours, from 6am to 8.30am, to prepare and detonated the explosives," Pallop said.

So why don't he completed the job as he had more than enough time. Moreover, Thawatchai's wife said that her husband drove a Nissan car from their house at about 6am, not 5.45am as earlier reported.

Moreover, he could not understand police's statements which said the vehicle was found circling the premier's residence for several times. "Why the drive had to drive the car that was loaded with heavy explosives around the residence of Thaksin. This is not usual practice as security officials could notice the presence of the car and the bombs," he said.

From his experience, he believed that the assassination was just a fabrication by a group of people who wanted to spin news as the government's popularity is declining.

"A few days ago, the government was heavily criticised and is on the downturn. It used the assassination plot to spin the situations," he said.

About five days ago, his source telephoned him, saying somebody said he would stage a coup d'etat. "I laughed because how can I make a coup d'etat. I am 70 years old and have no power to do so," he said.

"The problem of the country at the moment is the leader. If the leader should recongises this for the sake of the country. If he waits until chaos happens, there would be casualties. The leader should sacrifice himself," Pallop said.

The Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/25/headlines/headlines_30012006.php

GWR
25-08-06, 08:21 PM
In a similar vein to General Pallop: -

Chamlong says Class 7 not involved


Chamlong Srimuang, leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, Friday dismissed the allegation that his Chulachomklao Class 7 officers, including Pallop Pinmanee, were linked to the alleged plot to kill the prime minister.

"If Class 7 officers were involved, the mission (to kill Thaksin Shinawatra) would have been accomplished long ago," he said.

Chamlong voiced suspicion that Thaksin cried wolf in order to distract attention from problems facing his government.

"The news about a car full of explosives seems to have conveniently overshadowed other troubling reports like the Kalarp Kaew nominee case and the bullying tactics against antiThaksin protesters," he said.

He was referring to the official investigation on Thaksin's sale of Shin Corp via the nominee of Singapore's Temasek Holdings.

The Nation



http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30012008

Wisarut
25-08-06, 10:52 PM
Now, even the formaer Comrade have CONDEMNED Comrade Liab and Comrade Mink as "Slaves fo Thaiksin and Potjaman"

http://www.firelamtung.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=205

GWR
26-08-06, 01:32 AM
The nation is always a good source for the latest conspiracy theories: -

EDITORIAL
Reaction to 'bomb' raises key questions

Failure by police to follow standard safety procedures discredits view that an 'assassination plot' was underway

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/26/opinion/opinion_30012031.php

ANALYSIS
Incident may prove 'beneficial' for TRT

Thaksin Shinawatra's so-called foiled bomb plot has killed two birds with one stone, as it could lead to the dismantling of the Internal Security Operation Command (Isoc) and pave the way for his ruling Thai Rak Thai Party to take over the wide network of civilian volunteers built up by the anti-Communist agency during the Cold War, Isoc officials say.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/26/headlines/headlines_30012043.php

PRIME MINISTER IN PERIL
Thaksin supporters plead with Prem to save premier

Supporters' move seen as bid to link Prem to alleged murder attempt


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/26/headlines/headlines_30012041.php

ncr
26-08-06, 04:36 AM
Thaksin Shinawatra's so-called foiled bomb plot has killed two birds with one stone, as it could lead to the dismantling of the Internal Security Operation Command (Isoc) and pave the way for his ruling Thai Rak Thai Party to take over the wide network of civilian volunteers built up by the anti-Communist agency during the Cold War, Isoc officials say.Anyone have more background information about the ISOC - what it is: an agency, a military organizational unit?; its powers and responsibilities?; how its staff is made up - military, civilians?; who it answers to....? The article doesn't much go into the depth of this, apart from saying it was originally formed to counter the communist insurgency, and mentioning its mysterious "volunteer network".

The Enforcer!
26-08-06, 10:00 AM
Anyone have more background information about the ISOC - what it is: an agency, a military organizational unit?; its powers and responsibilities?; how its staff is made up - military, civilians?; who it answers to....? The article doesn't much go into the depth of this, apart from saying it was originally formed to counter the communist insurgency, and mentioning its mysterious "volunteer network".
Interesting website .... http://www.isoc.thaigov.net/ and from http://www.bpp.go.th/eng3.html it appears to be part of the Royal Thai Police.

The Enforcer!

The Enforcer!
26-08-06, 10:07 AM
This alleged plot has all the earmarks of a bogus incident.
Absolutely!

I do not believe there was any plot to kill Taksin, and will not believe there is any plot until he is killed ...and then I will not believe it as he is very likely to have faked it and turn up later (after a TRT Sympathy election win) as a 'Miracle'.

The Enforcer!

admin
26-08-06, 10:27 AM
Can someone show us with a GoogleEarth placemark where Thaksin's compound is on Soi Charansanitwong 69?

Wisarut
26-08-06, 05:33 PM
Moh Liab and Moh Mink are plottign the carbomb as the way to Destroy papa Prem and Chamlogn who Obstruct their plan to overthrow Thai Monarchy :eek:
http://www.thaiinsider.com/ShowNews.php?Link=News/Political/2006-08-24/18-22.htm

The Enforcer!
26-08-06, 06:01 PM
Moh Liab and Moh Mink are plottign the carbomb as the way to Destroy papa Prem and Chamlogn who Obstruct their plan to overthrow Thai Monarchy :eek:
http://www.thaiinsider.com/ShowNews.php?Link=News/Political/2006-08-24/18-22.htm
Absolutely! (for want of a better phrase).

This is Taksin stupidly trying to throw muck at Prem - he ought to remember that he who plays with fire gets burnt!

The Enforcer!

Wisarut
26-08-06, 11:07 PM
Yeah .. Even they got the support from Seh Ice, Seh Himalai, Seh Daeng opr oterh rough top brasse to remove Gen Phanlop ... those rough men woudl not be able to face with papa Prem and other top brasses who DISAGREE with them ....

ncr
27-08-06, 03:02 AM
Can someone show us with a GoogleEarth placemark where Thaksin's compound is on Soi Charansanitwong 69?Isn't that shown in the map sketch on the Krungthep Thurakit cover (http://www.2bangkok.com/06/aug2506kt.jpg) - must be one of the two red buildings at the back, possibly the big one? Do you have this image in bigger?

ncr
27-08-06, 03:08 AM
Interesting website .... http://www.isoc.thaigov.net/ and from http://www.bpp.go.th/eng3.html it appears to be part of the Royal Thai Police.Thanks. Though that doesn't make it much clearer - a division of the Royal Thai Police, with a separate thaigov.net website, a 70 year old retired army general as a deputy director (who's the director then, by the way, and why does nobody talk about him?), active army personnel among its staff, and an extensive network of civilian volunteers...... :confused:

A typical case of "only in Thailand", I guess.

GWR
27-08-06, 11:12 PM
It isn't easy to find anything on ISOC in English. And the fact that ISOC is also an acronym for the Internet Society diesn't help much; especially as the other ISOC also has many concerns about Thailand. I still can't find who the overall director is to Pallop's deputy post.

I'm not sure if the following article really tells us much, but I note Thawatchai's wife also hinted that he was pro-Thaksin. Could it be that Thawatchai cooked up his own cockamaimy scheme to discredit Thakin's detractors? Could it be that it backfired on him and that Thaksin supporters realised an opportunity had presented itself to blame it on the enemy? Could it be that Thawatchai has either been sacrificed or that he has already agreed to take the rap in return for a promise to be let out the backdoor at some point in the future?; -

Thawatchai 'admirer of Thaksin'

Police investigation can only bring charge of unlawful possession of explosive devices against Lt Thawatchai Klinchana at this point, while his elder brother Sunday said Thawatchai was an admirer of the prime minister and had always been speaking against the anti-Thaksin movements.

Police spokesman Lt-General Ajiravid Subarnbhesaj said Thawatchai would only be facing just one charge of unlawful possession of explosives for the time being.

"By laws, preparing to do something is not yet an offence," he said. However, he said investigation was ongoing and, if progress was made, further details would be made public.


The suspect's elder brother Staff Sergeant Ittipon Klinchana said Thawatchai had liked the premier a lot and were always against anti-Thaksin movements.


"He has disagreed with people who are against Thaksin. How can he ever try to assassinate the premier then?" Ittipon said, after he was allowed to meet his brother for five minutes.


Four days after Thawatchai was arrested in a Daewoo car loaded with explosive devices not far from the prime minister's residence, an investigation into the alleged assassination plot was still crawling at a snail's pace. His arrest has heightened political tension in the country. Thawatchai has maintained his innocence while various sources gave slightly different account of what exactly happened on Thursday.


The Nation



http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/27/headlines/headlines_30012133.php

GWR
28-08-06, 12:12 AM
This forum entry carries a Google placemark for Thaksin's residence:-

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Number/379886

And here's the placemark itself:-

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=379886

The large treey garden and 'paddling-pooley' blue swimming pool/goldfish pond suggests the placemark is correct. And doubtless Thunderbirds One is parked in a bunker underneath.:D

GWR
28-08-06, 01:00 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panlop_Pinmanee

Still no news about who is the current Director of ISOC, but rather ominously I note from the WIKI entry that General Chaovalit was both Defense Minister and ISOC Director at the time of the Krue Sae Mosque incident in April 2004. I haven't found any evidence that Big Jiew is still in this post, but I suspect it's highly likely that it is a nominee who has slavishly learned how to hate Panlop from the machiavellian Big Jiew.

ncr
28-08-06, 04:01 AM
This forum entry carries a Google placemark for Thaksin's residence:- http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Number/379886

The large treey garden and 'paddling-pooley' blue swimming pool/goldfish pond suggests the placemark is correct. And doubtless Thunderbirds One is parked in a bunker underneath.:DSomeone marked it (http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=13786415&x=100494395&z=18&l=0&m=a) on Wikimapia and added the annotation:

"Thaksin House - The palace of Thaksin Shinnawatra, The Sqare Face Prime Minister of Kingdom of Thailand. (But he is don't usa the "Kingdom" quote because he is wanna to be the President)"

Though this doesn't seem to be the right place. The Google placemark location really looks like it; to be found some 300m to the northwest.

The spot of the alleged bombing attempt has also been marked on Wikimapia.

ncr
28-08-06, 04:13 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panlop_Pinmanee

Intriguing vita. :eek:

Three coups / coup attempts, temporary exile in Laos, quite some responsibility for the handling of Krue Sae, plus this:

- Pallop later admitted that he was the mastermind behind a series of assassination attempts against General Arthit Kamlang-ek, commander of the Army under Prem. -

- He recounts how the saddest event of his career was firing heavy artillery against women and children communists at Phoo Hin Rong Kla. - (from the talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pallop_Pinmanee))

- Pallop denied all involvement, noting that "If had wanted to do it, I would have done it more subtly...In my career, I have lead death squads. If I had wanted to kill him, the Prime Minister would not have escaped." -

So he surely knows what he's talking about, and we may believe him that he would have used a smarter assassination plan if he was really behind it.....

ncr
28-08-06, 05:24 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panlop_Pinmanee

Still no news about who is the current Director of ISOC, but rather ominously I note from the WIKI entry that General Chaovalit was both Defense Minister and ISOC Director at the time of the Krue Sae Mosque incident in April 2004. I haven't found any evidence that Big Jiew is still in this post, but I suspect it's highly likely that it is a nominee who has slavishly learned how to hate Panlop from the machiavellian Big Jiew.This page (http://www.isoc.thaigov.net/bord_manage.htm) on the ISOC site confirms that Chavalit was the director in October 2002; while this one (http://www.isoc.thaigov.net/phongthep.htm) mentions the following guys in January 2004:

พล.อ. ธีระพงษ์ ศรีวัฒนะกุล (General Thiraphong Siwattanakun) - หัวหน้าสำนักงานผู้อำนวยการรักษาความมั่นคงภายใ น (head of the office of the ISOC's director?)
พล.อ.พงษ์เทพ เทศประทีป (General Phongthep Thetprathip) - ลธ.รมน.

ลธ. = เลขาธิการ = secretary, รมน. = การรักษาความมั่นคงภายใน = Internal Security....?

Khun Wisarut? Could you help us....?

GWR
28-08-06, 10:22 AM
Someone marked it (http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=13786415&x=100494395&z=18&l=0&m=a) on Wikimapia and added the annotation:

"Thaksin House - The palace of Thaksin Shinnawatra, The Sqare Face Prime Minister of Kingdom of Thailand. (But he is don't usa the "Kingdom" quote because he is wanna to be the President)"

Though this doesn't seem to be the right place. The Google placemark location really looks like it; to be found some 300m to the northwest.

The spot of the alleged bombing attempt has also been marked on Wikimapia.

Looking at a map. I suspect that mislabelled place is the Pimonvit Child Development Center, opposite Pimonvit School where the Shinawatras always go to vote in elections.

GWR
28-08-06, 10:26 AM
Intriguing vita. :eek:

Three coups / coup attempts, temporary exile in Laos, quite some responsibility for the handling of Krue Sae, plus this:

- Pallop later admitted that he was the mastermind behind a series of assassination attempts against General Arthit Kamlang-ek, commander of the Army under Prem. -

- He recounts how the saddest event of his career was firing heavy artillery against women and children communists at Phoo Hin Rong Kla. - (from the talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pallop_Pinmanee))

- Pallop denied all involvement, noting that "If had wanted to do it, I would have done it more subtly...In my career, I have lead death squads. If I had wanted to kill him, the Prime Minister would not have escaped." -

So he surely knows what he's talking about, and we may believe him that he would have used a smarter assassination plan if he was really behind it.....

No angel for sure. I have a Thai language book about Pallop's escapades that I wish I could read. But it's quite clear that he is a bit of reactionary maverick in his own right.

Thai Generals are big on the boast, but I can't help noting that he didn't succeed in assassinating Arthit Kamlang-Ek.

GWR
28-08-06, 10:45 AM
A chance discovery: -

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=25sx45y

Without being too scientific about this, I suspect that the Shin Res is somewhere up near the Soi dogleg, perhaps even right by the number 69.

GWR
28-08-06, 11:24 AM
Not really very close. I suppose as close as the security around the Shin Redoubt would allow. This bank is on Sirinthon Road, further West than this map:-

Fake bomb found near Thaksin's house


A bag made to look like bomb was found at the back of a bank near the house of caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

The bag was spotted near the wall of the Siam Commercial Bank by a maid of the bank at 6:30 am.

The maid looked inside and found black plastic box attached with a clock and wires were linked the clock into the box.

The bank is located about 500 metres away from Soi Jaruslarp, which is connected to the soi where Thaksin's house is located on.

The maid alerted police who placed seven tires over the box and called in bomb disposal officials to check it.

Bomb disposal officials took about 30 minutes to check it and found that it was a fake bomb. There was no explosive inside, except an old battery tied with wires.

Officials also found a page of paper with abusive words against Thaksin written in handwriting.

The Nation



http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30012154

GWR
28-08-06, 02:43 PM
Here is General Pallop in all his airbrushed tightlipped 'Devil take the hindmost' glory on the cover of a book from 'Good Morning Publishing', circa late 2004. The book appears to be entitled something like 'Was I wrong? to invade [reclaim] Krue Sae! General Pallop Pinmanee, the General MacArthur of Thailand'. Written by Thanachok and Siriganda ( No surnames). Available at the likes of Se-Ed bookshops and even festival bookstalls at 195 Baht:-

http://i3.tinypic.com/25tf7zq.jpg

BangkokPundit
28-08-06, 03:24 PM
No angel for sure. I have a Thai language book about Pallop's escapades that I wish I could read. But it's quite clear that he is a bit of reactionary maverick in his own right.


Pallop's books gives a defence of his actions. I remember him writing it would be unconstitutional to give any food to the people inside the Mosque as this could be interpreted as aiding criminals - or something like that.

On ISOC:

From a review (http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&se=gglsc&d=5002346722&er=deny) of "Rituals of National Loyalty: An Anthropology of the State and the Village Scout Movement in Thailand":

It is widely known that the various right-wing groups which violently attacked the demonstrators were organized by the state; the Krating Daeng, or Red Gaurs, was established by the military's Internal Security Operations Command (ISOC), the Village Scouts by the BPP, and the Nawaphon by the Interior Ministry.

From this paper (PDF (http://www.mekong.es.usyd.edu.au/publications/working_papers/wp9.pdf)) (HTML (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:g3urN2KH_6AJ:www.mekong.es.usyd.edu .au/publications/working_papers/wp9.pdf+Thai+Internal+Security+Operations+Command,&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8))from Desmond Ball:

In April 1999, the Internal Security Operations Command
(ISOC), which had been established to coordinate the campaign against communist insurgents in the 1970s, was restructured to fight drug trafficking


More information on ISOC can be found from its Wiki page (http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B3%E0%B 8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3% E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8 %84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B1%E 0%B9%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8% B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%83%E0%B8%99) (Thai only).

A quick summary:

ISOC IS a an agency under the authority of the Office of PM and had the duty to liaise with other agencies for the benefit of national security. The PM or a Deputy PM is the Director.

It was initially founded in 1965, as the Communist Suppression Operations Command (CSOC) to fight the communists, but under Chuan Leekpai was also given responsibility for suppressing the drug trade. It is agency which focuses on intelligence and psych ops.

The 3 Deputy Directors are:
-Supreme Commander
-Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Interior
-Political Deupty Director is appointed by the PM - this is [now, was] Gen. Panlop

While, ISOC is not directly under control of the Military, it has and has always had a very strong military presence.

Wisarut
28-08-06, 03:37 PM
Now, some of poster in Thaiinsider.com has warnewd Maew and cronies that

"Never, ever meddling wiht CRMA Class 7 ... for your own safety ..."
"Ai Maew ... Do you want to die liek a strayed dog?"
" Ee Potjaman, do you want to get a regiment of boyfriends from the 9th Infantry Division?"

"Ai Oak, do you want to get sodomize in suhc a way that you'll love it?!"

GWR
28-08-06, 11:17 PM
Could it be that General Chaovalit is still the ISOC Commander? So far we haven't heard a single 'I'm not sure' comment on this case. That in itself probably indicates that he's so unsure that he now can't even say he's not sure. The answer is probably staring us in the face, from behind jam-jar spectacles (courtesy of Top Charoen), but like the man himself, it's definitely not very forthcoming.

Well, I now review Bangkok Pundit's post and I see he has sort of answered the question with his translation & summary: -

More information on ISOC can be found from its Wiki page (Thai only).

http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B3%E0%B 8%99%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3% E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A9%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8 %84%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B1%E 0%B9%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8% B2%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%83%E0%B8%99


A quick summary:

Quote:
ISOC IS a an agency under the authority of the Office of PM and had the duty to liaise with other agencies for the benefit of national security. The PM or a Deputy PM is the Director.

So we still don't know if its Thaksin himself or Chidchai Wannasathit. And I suppose there is still a possibility that they have farmed it out to the 'I'm not sure if I'm retired or not' Chaovalit. In any case, it is almost certainly someone who is strongly pro-Thaksin.

BangkokPundit
29-08-06, 04:44 AM
In any case, it is almost certainly someone who is strongly pro-Thaksin.

Today's Bangkok Post (http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/29Aug2006_news13.php) provides the answer:

Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra will soon order a clean-up of the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) where Lt Thawatchai Klinchana, suspected of planting Thursday's car bomb, had worked, an army source said yesterday.

The source said Mr Thaksin wanted to revamp the Isoc as many officers at the agency were suspected of involvement in the attempted car bomb attack near his residence in Bang Phlad district on Thursday morning.

The targetted officers are allegedly close to Gen Panlop Pinmanee who was removed the same morning as the Isoc deputy director and later resigned as an adviser to the caretaker defence minister.

According to the source, Mr Thaksin views the Isoc as a gathering place of retired military officers who were given jobs without an organised system and may be up to no good. There are almost 7,000 officers working for the Isoc nationwide, of which over 5,000 don't really have any work to do, said the source.

Mr Thaksin, as the Isoc director, plans to appoint an officer to permanently replace Gen Panlop as the agency's supervisor, said the source.

The Isoc is responsible for monitoring the activities of drug traffickers, fighting terrorism, the southern violence, illegal labour, illegal arms trade and mafia figures.

Lt Thawatchai is attached to the communications section at the Isoc.

GWR
29-08-06, 10:53 AM
Thanks for clearing that up!

According to the source, Mr Thaksin views the Isoc as a gathering place of retired military officers who were given jobs without an organised system and may be up to no good. There are almost 7,000 officers working for the Isoc nationwide, of which over 5,000 don't really have any work to do, said the source.

Well I have some fairly direct evidence that he is right on that one. However, Thaksin almost certainly wishes to replace such monkeys with his own monkeys.

The Enforcer!
31-08-06, 08:57 AM
From today's Bangkok Post....

The alleged bomb plot against caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was a set-up intended to incriminate Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda, Panlop Pinnamee says. Citing how his ties with people critical of the government and with figures close to Gen Prem were manipulated, Gen Panlop said he believed the ''foiled'' plot was an attempt to incriminate Gen Prem.


The Enforcer!

admin
11-09-06, 09:20 AM
So who are "Kor, Phor and Por"?

>Sgt-Major Chakhrit Janthara, who surrendered to police last Wednesday, allegedly said majors general "Kor, Phor and Por" conspired in the assassination plot.


********

POWER STRUGGLE
There will be no coup in Thailand says PM

Arrested officer implicates three senior men in assassination plot

Caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday denied that there was any move to launch a coup in Thailand.

Thaksin was speaking at the Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) in Finland.

"I've never said that there was any movement suggestive of a coup plan. From as far as I know, there's no such movement for the time being," he said.

However, he said rumours about a coup were indeed swirling because some people really wanted a coup to take place.

An army officer said to be the key suspect in a plot to assassinate Thaksin has allegedly implicated three more senior officers.

He is reported to have named three majors general and two sergeants.

They are alleged to have built the failed bomb in Lop Buri.

Sgt-Major Chakhrit Janthara, who surrendered to police last Wednesday, allegedly said majors general "Kor, Phor and Por" conspired in the assassination plot.

All three were assigned to the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) and were close to General Pallop Pinmanee. He was sacked as Isoc deputy director for "betraying" Thai Rak Thai, said a police source.

Chakhrit had previously implicated a four-star general as the plot mastermind. He implicated four other Isoc officers as accomplices.

According to the source, Chakhrit said in addition to the Daewoo sedan car bomb, officers had weapons hidden in a gold-bronze-coloured Nissan pickup in case the bomb failed.

The pickup was parked at a hotel at Thon Buri a few hours before the car bomb operation failed.

Weapons in the pickup were from a military unit in Lop Buri, the source said.

Police have yet to locate the pickup.

A source said police found explosives hidden in the Daewoo sedan were prepared by two sergeants of a military unit in Lop Buri.

Crime Suppression Division chief Police Maj-General Winai Thongsong said a police search of seven Bangkok homes of military personnel allegedly linked to the assassination plot uncovered only documents that may or may not be useful in the investigation.

Police yesterday upped security at the Crime Suppression Division where Sgt-Major Chakhrit is detained.

Police commandos guard him around the clock.

Special locks secure the division building and only high-ranking police and division officials are allowed to enter.
(http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/11/politics/politics_30013304.php)

GWR
12-09-06, 12:04 AM
I suppose the first question is whether Kor really is /Kor/. I often see /Gor Gy/ก rendered as /Kor/.

If it is /Kor/, is it /Kor Ky/ข, /Kor Rakang/(largely obsolete), /Kor Kwai/ค, /Kor Kohn/(largely obsolete) or /Kor Koo-ut/ฆ?

For Phor and Por, we also have the bewildering choice of /Por Pla/ป, /Por Peung/ผ, /Por Pahn/พ or /Por Sampao/ภ. Either of them could even be a misrepresentation of /Bor By My/บ I suppose.

:rolleyes:

Hopefully someone will point out my mistakes here, and even tell us which one. My enquiries on this one have drawn a /Bor Blank/ so far! It seems to be one of those 'Mai Pen Ry' issues , which probably indicates that no one wishes to commit effort to explain the sort of mundane issue that most other sane farangs (and Thais) would never bother to ask about.

Pas
22-09-06, 11:38 AM
edit:
pretty sure now this is one of the accused generals...(the guy Taksin accused of planting explosives near his car)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panlop_Pinmanee

Pas
22-09-06, 02:29 PM
"For example, when Thaksin ordered in 2001 the sidelining of Kasem Watanachai and Palakorn Suwannarat, two well-known royalist bureaucratic officials, the King within hours appointed both of them to his Privy Council."
the third P = Prem Tinsulanond?

from article "All the King's Men" by Shawn W Crispin @ Asia Times

edit:
I think i jumped the gun a bit.. the article was referring to the other four-star generals (I think no one would be silly to make accusations about the abovementioned generals who now serve in privy council.. such accusation would have been very damaging).
I am sure there are many other generals whose name begins with those alphabets!

Pas
22-09-06, 05:15 PM
guess who else graduated from Class 7 of the Chulachomklao Royal
Military Academy, who is close to Gen Panlop...

Chamlong Srimuang, Taksin ex mentor who became his arch nemesis.. (sounds like a plot from Star Wars isn't it?!! :D)

GWR
30-09-06, 12:43 AM
Anyone care to interpret this move?

Car-bomb suspects get bail

Three Army suspects in the alleged plot to assassinate caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra with a car bomb were released on bail yesterday.

Sgt-Major Chakhrit Janthana, the only suspect police said had been cooperative in their investigation, was freed from military custody in Nakhon Pathom but was still under the protection of Crime Suppression Division (CSD) police at Chokechai Soi 4.

National Police chief General Kowit Wattana had reportedly given investigators permission to drop Chakhrit as a suspect and treat him as a key state witness. CSD commander Maj-General Winai Thongsong confirmed nvestigators had reached a consensus to exclude Chakhrit as a suspect.

Police will soon complete their probe, leaving Chakhrit out, and recommend prosecution of the four other suspects, although the exact charges against them have not been decided.

Also released were Lieutenant Thawatchai Klinchana and Colonel Surapol Supradit. Thawatchai was arrested on the morning of August 24 while driving a Daewoo sedan loaded with explosives under the Bang Plat flyover, where the vehicle was intercepted.

Surapol was alleged to be the buyer of the sedan and a key operative in the car-bomb attack. Thawatchai posted bail worth Bt500,000. He was required to report to the Bangkok Military Court on October 11. The value of Suraphol's bail was not known.

Lt-Colonel Manas Sukprasert is now the only suspect still in military detention.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/09/30/headlines/headlines_30015051.php

nathawat
07-10-06, 08:50 PM
From today's Bangkok Post....

The alleged bomb plot against caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was a set-up intended to incriminate Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda, Panlop Pinnamee says. Citing how his ties with people critical of the government and with figures close to Gen Prem were manipulated, Gen Panlop said he believed the ''foiled'' plot was an attempt to incriminate Gen Prem.


The Enforcer!

Since now the military coup took place (obviously by the military and SEEMINGLY led by the Privy Council's member), it's quite clear to me that:

1. The car-bomb assassination was REAL (and so the car-bomb plot consprircies on this thread were all bullshits)

2. There would be no continuancy or further investigation on this assassination attempt anymore (hell..who wants to have bombs infront of own house or car)

3. Car-bomb and the coup are the consequent events (no accident)

4. THEY are the largest mafia (or may the the only one left) in this country

:mad:

Baton Rouge
08-10-06, 12:18 AM
Since now the military coup took place (obviously by the military and SEEMINGLY led by the Privy Council's member), it's quite clear to me that:

1. The car-bomb assassination was REAL (and so the car-bomb plot consprircies on this thread were all bullshits)

2. There would be no continuancy or further investigation on this assassination attempt anymore (hell..who wants to have bombs infront of own house or car)

3. Car-bomb and the coup are the consequent events (no accident)

4. THEY are the largest mafia (or may the the only one left) in this country

:mad:

Maybe it's his kharma for instigating thousands of cases of kangaroo court justice by policemen in mufti and their sinister allies.

We can either believe your conspiracy theory or we can believe the stories that Thaksin's supporters in the police spirited away the files during the coup. (That might well account for why Kowit is in such bad odor, or why he is seeking some distance himself.) Could it thus be that to save their own skins, some Thaksin stalwarts did a deal with CDR to get rid of the files? Stuff like this happens every day.

In the meantime. Should I really care a toss if these military academy graduates try to snuff each other out in yet another factional carveup? Like the rest of us, they are expendable. ;)

nathawat
08-10-06, 02:01 PM
I saw your original quote.

Maybe it's his kharma for instigating thousands of cases of kangaroo court justice by policemen in mufti and their sinister allies.

We can either believe your conspiracy theory or we can believe the stories that Thaksin's supporters in the police spirited away the files during the coup. (That might well account for why Kowit is in such bad odor, or why he is seeking some distance himself.) Could it thus be that to save their own skins, some Thaksin stalwarts did a deal with CDR to get rid of the files? Stuff like this happens every day.

In the meantime. Should I really care a toss if these military academy graduates try to snuff each other out in yet another factional carveup? Like the rest of us, they are expendable.

As the ordinary citizen you portray yourself to be, it is far more
likely that you might have ended up on the 'War against Drugs' hitlist that
the ISOC Old Buddies hitlist. ;)

From your last paragraph above, it revealed that you have no doubt THAY are capable of such act. That means Ajarn Giles was right about the barbarian government after all. It's in everyone's mind, only no one dare to speak (including you).

There's no secret in this world. Sooner or later the true will come out to all of us regardless of how accurate the conspiracy above would be. How long the hitlist THEY prepare to have? Everyone names?

Baton Rouge
08-10-06, 02:58 PM
Nothing very controversial about that. Yes, I know there are people in ISOC capable of this. Unfortunately for you, I'm not at all convinced that it was them in this case. (I could be convinced, perhaps.) And even if I did, it wouldn't change anything for me as an ordinary citizen. The duplicity of most of Thailand's elite (in which I definitely include Thaksin) is entirely of their own making. They have only themselves to blame for this fiasco.

Fact is, I don't have any proof that this PM is a barbarian just yet. (It will probaly come!) But I do have direct evidence that Thaksin conducted a barbaric war against small drug dealers. And there are signs that indicate that his regime was not averse to terminating other kinds of people who got in the way of their money-making schemes.

You are making a huge mistake if you really think the majority of posters here hold a flag for this junta. Most of us are aware of the previous regime's numerous misdeeds, and we're now waiting for the misdeeds of this regime to kick in; as they almost inevitably will.

That's the way politicians are here. If you want to believe their BS, that's your problem! I had no investment in the Thaksin regime, and I don't intend to invest in this regime either. Both too devious for my tastes. In comparison, you invested in the Thaksin regime with a great deal with emotional capital. It is thus your fault entirely if your profit has been only grief.

GWR
09-11-06, 11:31 PM
Police will include attempted murder among the six charges to be filed against four military officers accused in an apparent plot to assassinate ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in August.

Observers were surprised at the inclusion of the charge as it had been speculated that only less serious charges including possessing explosives would be filed against the Internal Security Operations Command (ISOC) officers following the September 19 coup.

Police will submit their investigation report and indictment suggestions to public prosecutors on Monday after a two-hour meeting to wind up their part of the case yesterday.

The four suspects are Maj-General Phairoj Theerapharb, Colonel Suraphol Supradit, Lt-Colonel Manas Sukprasert and Lieutenant Thawatchai Klin-chana.

The officers all face six charges: criminal conspiracy to commit premeditated murder; attempting to kill a state official on duty; possessing explosives; having non-authorised items in their possession; forging and using official documents; and criminal conspiracy.

Sgt-Major Chakhrit Janthara, an ISOC officer whom police said was charged with identifying the target and obtaining a Daewoo sedan that carried a large amount of explosives and a blasting agent, would not be charged in exchange for turning state's evidence to implicate the four officers.

According to the police investigation report, Phairoj was the leader of the team, Suraphol coordinated the operations and obtained the Daewoo sedan and Manas was in charge of explosives and detonation.

Thawatchai was arrested while driving the sedan near the former premier's Bang Phlat residence on August 24.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/11/10/national/national_30018541.php

GWR
13-11-06, 11:05 PM
Or is it 4 sheep?

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/11/13/headlines/headlines_30018848.php

Four military officers charged of attempted assassination

National police chief Pol General Kowit Vatana signed on Monday an endorsement recommending four military offices be charged with trying to assassinate former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Kowit's signature, which is the final step in indicting the senior military officers, came after a onehour meeting with several senior police officers including chief investigator of the case, Central Investigation Bureau head Pol Lt General Montree Jamroon.

The four suspects are Maj General Phairoj Theerapharb, Colonel Suraphol Supradit, Lt Colonel Manas Sukprasert and Lieutenant Thawatchai Klinchana, all of whom are attached to the Internal Security Operations Command (ISOC).

The officers all face six charges: criminal conspiracy to commit premeditated murder; attempting to kill a state official on duty; possessing explosives; having nonauthorised items in their possession; forging and using official documents; and criminal conspiracy.

SgtMajor Chakhrit Janthara, an ISOC officer whom police say was responsible for obtaining a Daewoo sedan that was found carrying a large amount of explosives and a blasting agent, would not be charged in exchange for turning state's evidence against the four officers.

Phairoj, the only suspect not in military custody, is required to report to a military prosecutor soon.

The investigation report for the case is over 3,000 pages long and includes interviews with 106 witnesses.

The Nation

GWR
08-03-07, 11:13 PM
The headline says 4 charged, but the article says three :confused: :

4 Army men charged in 'car bomb' case

Military prosecutors yesterday filed criminal charges against three officers linked to an alleged attempt to assassinate former premier Thaksin Shinawatra with a bomb-loaded car last August, while dropping all charges against one of them.

A source at the Bangkok Military Court's public prosecution office said that Colonel Suraphol Supradit, Lt-Colonel Manas Sukprasert and Lieutenant Thawatchai Klinchana have been charged with premeditated attempt to commit murder, attempted murder of a state official on duty, having explosives and unauthorised possession of equipment.

Maj-General Phairoj Theerapharb faced no criminal charges, the source added.

Sgt-Major Chakhrit Janthara, who disclosed evidence allegedly implicating the three officers, will receive immunity in exchange for his testimony in court. All five have been released on bail.

Wisit Chuanpipatpong
The Nation

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/03/09/national/national_30028864.php