Thailanders' Hatred toward Singaporean ERUPT [Archive]

Wisarut

08-03-06, 03:22 AM

THAILAND:Anti-Thaksin Anger Vented on Singapore :rolleyes:
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32365
THAILAND:
Anti-Thaksin Anger Vented on Singapore
Marwaan Macan-Markar

BANGKOK , Mar 3 (IPS) - Singaporeans living in Thailand or visiting as tourists may have reason to feel nervous at the manner in which the affluent city-state is portrayed in the increasingly bitter political debate that has engulfed Bangkok.

Three anti-government demonstrations in February, which attracted thousands of largely middle-class Thais, offered glimpses of this hostile sentiment towards South-east Asia's richest country.

''Welcome to Thailand: The Second Branch of Singapore,'' read one of the lesser provocative banners held up by the demonstrators at one public rally. During these rallies, all a speaker has to do is castigate Singapore as a nation trying to buy its way into Thailand and the crowds roar in agreement.

Singapore as the scapegoat has its antecedents in a deal, made public late January, between Shin Corp., a telecommunications conglomerate founded by Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and Temasek, the investment arm of the Singapore government.

Shin Corp. was sold to Temasek by the Shinawatra family, which ran the company after Thaksin shifted from being billionaire tycoon to running the government, in a deal which fetched 1.88 billion US dollars. No taxes were paid.

Almost immediately, a bout of Singapore-bashing began to manifest itself in sections of the Thai-language media. ''Our country has become a colony of Singapore,'' wrote a columnist in the Jan. 25 edition of 'Kom Chad Luk,' one of Thailand's leading local language dailies.

There even was a racial slant to the editorial. ''We should be aware of the danger from the black-haired and small-eyed foreignersà ''We won't have anything left over the next few years because those black-haired and small-eyed foreigners came to be involved in every single policy in Thailand.''

The warning that rising hostility against Thaksin could get transferred to Singapore manifested in February during protests by a group of activists in front of the Singapore embassy here, calling on Temasek to cancel the deal.

Thailand's English-language newspapers have drawn attention to ''xenophobia'' and the ''anti-foreigner'' sentiment in articles reflecting the mood of a city angry at the Shinawatra family for an act of betrayal. Shin Corp., say the critics, owned key sectors of the country's economy and controlled an industry with sensitive security issues that should continue to remain in Thai hands.

This week, the leader of Thailand's opposition Democrat Party, Abhist Vejjajiva, told journalists at the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Thailand that there was reason for worry. He added, though, that ''most Thais do not want us, as a nation, to slip into that kind of nationalism.''

''If Temasek cooperates (in making known the conditions of the Shin Corp. sale), I don't see why there would be a reason for resentment to be directed at Singaporeans,'' he said.

The Democrat Party's decision to boycott a snap parliamentary election in early April, called by Thaksin as a way to resolve the current crisis, is expected to push up the political temperature. Two smaller opposition parties have also thrown their weight behind the Democrats.

The Shin Corp. deal is only one of the many issues that have angered the government's critics. The Thaksin administration is also being charged with corruption and financial irregularities, intimidating the media and undermining independent institutions set up to check the power of the government.

Singapore is currently Thailand's second largest investor after Japan. In 2004, its investments were estimated at 600 million dollars. The portfolio includes banks, blue-chip property development and shares in the hospital and hotel sectors. The largest stockbroker in Thailand's Securities and Exchange Commission is a Singaporean entity, Kim Eng Securities.

But foreigner- bashing is not new here. In the wake of the 1997 financial crisis, there was an eruption of anti-foreigner sentiments by the Thai middle class that lasted up to 1999. Foreigners -- largely Westerners -- were faulted for creating the conditions that led to the Thai economy plunging. Helping to propagate the notion of ''the innocent Thai being at the receiving end of the rapacious foreign businessmen'' were the local broadcasting and print media.

In the early 1970s, the target of ultra-nationalism was the Japanese. In the vanguard were university students enraged at Thailand's trade deficit with Japan and the latter's dominance of the local economy. The students called for a boycott of Japanese goods, a Japanese-owned gym was attacked and, most dramatically, hundreds of students surrounded the hotel where the then Japanese prime minister Kakuei Tanaka was staying and chanted anti-Japanese slogans.

Analysts of Thai political culture are not surprised by these outbursts from a people who, in the course of their normal lives, appear gentle, calm and are known for their captivating smiles.

''It stems from the way the sense of 'Thainess' and the Thai identity has been constructed over the past century,'' David Streckfuss, a U.S. academic specialising in Thai political culture, told IPS. ''There is a certain narrowness that has the potential to erupt into xenophobia under particular conditions.''

A similar argument has been made by a Thai academic, Pavin Chachavalpongpun, in a book published late last year, 'A Plastic Nation,' about identity formation. ''Historically, the farang (foreigner) threat was ingrained into the Thai minds during the peak of Western colonisation in Asia. Today, the threat of the farang remains,'' he writes. ''Tam kon farang (worshipping foreigners or foreignness) is deemed as a crime to Thainess.''

Ironically, Thaksin was a leading exponent of such anti-foreigner sentiment when he set up his Thai Rak Thai (Thais Love Thai) party in 1998 and he road a wave of extreme nationalism to secure an emphatic victory at the January 2001 elections to begin his first term in office.

''Thaksin is now at the receiving end of this Thai nationalist streak after selling Shin Corp.,'' says Streckfuss. ''The Singaporeans are the unfortunate targets of this feeling that foreigners cannot protect and represent the interest of Thais.'' (END/2006)

j.j. havellas

08-03-06, 09:38 AM

Not yet ... because Singaporean firms have Meddled into Thai business so MUCH and SO WIDE that even Local Thai business who used to be friends with Singaporean firms would REVOLT against Singapore .... :p

Some examples please (or were you joking)?

Wisarut

08-03-06, 10:02 AM

The list of Singaporean Busienss in Thailand - which are target of Boycott

1) UOB Bank
2) DBS Bank
3) Hartrock Cafe
4) Tiger Beer
5) Hinegen Bewer (Agent in Thailand come from Singapore)
6) Singapore Airline
7) Cathey Pacific - already belonged to Temasek
8) Air Asia (Thailand)
9) Sukhothai Hotel
10) Winsor Hotel
11) Grand Diamond Hotel
12) Conrad an Clubmate
13) Centerpoint Service Apartment
14) the ucomign PANO Condo at Rama 3
15) Bangkok Nursing Home Hospital (BNH Hospital)
16) Tiger Balm
17) Computer parts/Software package that come from reginal Office in Singapore such as those from Creative Lab
18) Tiger Airways ...
19) All other business in ShinCorp which are more than 100 companies :eek:

Temasek also wants to takeover Thai Inter ot become just a new branch of Singapore Airline ! :eek:

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Now, Singaporean Government have a FULL access into Thai Military Information in Khorat, Udornthani and Kanchanaburi :eek:

Even thoday, Singaporean Citizen still feel very DISBELIEVE that we know how to use Microwave oven since
they stioll though we still live in Caves like Neanderthal

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The following Thai business wihth Singaporean as major shareholders are another set of targets for Boycott:
1) Bangkok Bank PCL
2) AIS
3) Nescafe (Thaland) - esp the one that sold in 7-11
4) ITV
5) Grammy Entertainment
6) Land and House PCL
7) More than 60% of Hotel in Phuket
8) Siam Commercial Bank PCL
9) PTT PCL

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Now, even the business of Thaksin Cornies are another set for Boycott

1) CP Group including food from CP, 5-Star roast chicken, 7-11, Chester Grill, Tesco Lotus, Makro
2) Grammy Entertainment
3) G Steel
4) NesCafe (Thailand)
5) Land and House PCL

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A lot more will follow Look at the list here at
http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000031651
http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000031331
:eek:

jpatokal

08-03-06, 11:28 AM

3) Hartrock Cafe
Hard Rock Cafe is owned by the Rank Group plc, based in the UK.
4) Tiger Beer
Brewed by Asia Pacific Breweries, a joint venture between Fraser & Neave (Singapore) and Heineken (Netherlands). I don't think Temasek has a significant stake in either.
7) Cathey Pacific - already belonged to Temasek
Cathay is part of the Swire Group of Hong Kong.
8) Air Asia (Thailand)
Air Asia is owned by Tune Air, which is a Malaysian company. (Of course, Shin owned 50%, but after the stake was sold to Asia Aviation, Sittichai Veerathammanoon now owns 25% and Shin has just 25% directly controlled.)
12) Conrad an Clubmate
Conrad is a trademark of Hilton Hotel Corporation, based in the USA. Club Med is a French company.

jpatokal

08-03-06, 11:32 AM

Wisarut

08-03-06, 12:22 PM

It is not just 1.8 Billion US$ Dollars that cause such hatred, the AIrforce Base in Udornthani and Khorat as well as the SIngaporean Camp (Inwasa Camp), Dan Mahkham Tia, Kanchanaburi .... are the BIOG Threat to National Security ... :eek:

Wisarut

08-03-06, 12:31 PM

Khun jpatokal, Read this:

To mob leader. Let protect Thai national Tresure.

Let’s break selling SHIN CORP!

1. Go to Singapore Embassy to force Singapore not to buy SHIN. This is totally right way. If selling SHIN CORP is illegal, buying SHIN CORP is illegal also.

2. Go to BBL (Bangkok Bank PCL) not to lend in this deal.

This deal involve in selling Thai national treasure. It is illegal.

You bring your mob to BBL in order to send the letter of determination.

You know! Every bank is afraid mob!

Every bank has to protect image for people. If bank image is “Selling Thai nationality”, bank will lost more than get form this deal.

You know! Bank is afraid crowd to withdarw their own money!

3. Go to SCB (Siam Commercial Bank).

The reason is the same as BBL but SCB invest in buyer SHIN CORP.

However, the letter of determination to SCB will have more items.

Because SCB is one of SHIN CORP.buyers. Because this deal is illegal and will destroy our country, we have to recommend SCB management that withdraw SCB to be SHIN CORP buyer.

Because SCB owns SCBS (Siam Commercial Bank Sucurity - the Thai broker in this deal). SCB rules SCBS to break this deal.

4. Go to SCBS [SiamCommercial Bank Security] (In Sinthorn Building)

SCBS is the Thai broker in this deal. SCBS has to break this deal.
vit

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Each day went by, our leading government and his cabinets are still spending so much money from our National Bank. I wonder what is left behind for the next generation.

Is there anyone can check how much money left in the National Bank?

For certain that Thai people will have to pay for every baht to fulfill those spending money.

Wake up everyone and check on the MPs expenditure.

Love Thailand

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If we stop to buy the productswhich support Taksin and his carbinet,these will impact too much for them. Not only boycott for their products ,but also their supporter direct and indirect.
Products from Shin Group, AIS,SC,CAPITAL OK,MLINK,TWZ,SC PARK,HOW COME
Suriya Group,SUMMIT AUTO PARTS
PINEHURTS,
Surapong Group BODY SHAPE

Mahakitsiri Nesle,TNH,THAI COPPER
AND their supporter
CP Group,tesco,7-11,5 stars,
Suriya'ssupporters...Toyota, ISUZU,HONDA
Poomtam 's supporters..Shipping,Cargo,Mitzu

... etc...
STOP TO USE FOREIGNER PRODUCTS
STOP TO USE FOREIGNER PRODUCTS
STOP TO USE FOREIGNER PRODUCTS
STOP TO USE FOREIGNER PRODUCTS

eSPECIALLY the big amount and high price products
such as Moblie Phone ,Pickup,Advertise,CARS

eSPECIALLY the big amount and high price products
such as Moblie Phone ,Pickup,Advertise,CARS

eSPECIALLY the big amount and high price products
such as Moblie Phone ,Pickup,Advertise,CARS

This way will reduce their income and save Thai budget.
This way will reduce their income and save Thai budget.
This way will reduce their income and save Thai budget.
THAI
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More Anti-Singaporean Post here: http://webboard.mthai.com/5/2006-03-08/206944.html
http://webboard.mthai.com/5/2006-03-08/206915.html

j.j. havellas

08-03-06, 03:02 PM

ncr

08-03-06, 04:48 PM

Maybe if ALL foreign companies would bow to nationalistic pressure and leave Thailand (with all the products and services they offer, and jobs they provide), then indeed Thai people would have to resort to "living in caves" once again.....?

doseiai

08-03-06, 05:18 PM

I think we should resolve this dispute between Buangkok and Bangkok by Thai people smiling and picking their nose...

recalling the spat between Taiwan and Singapore...when the President of Taiwan called Singapore "a booger size country" that "licks China's testicles".

We all know that Singapore has "small country syndrome." (Known in the south as "bantie complex"). I predict China gives em a wedgie and takes their lunch money.

Screw icbm's and wmd's, we've got tactical assault boogers.

S'not true at all bout Singapore

bumemr 'cuz names like that can stick and be hard to flick away?

*leaves to go flick a Singapore on someone*

My seven year-old asked me just this morning why we have boogers. I could have saved a lot of time by pointing to a map and showing him Singapore.

Enough insults already...read the whole article...

http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/2004/10/international_t.html

Wisarut

08-03-06, 07:09 PM

Khn NCR

Other countries who invested in Thailand have NOT gone too far into the Security Issue (e.g. Settin up Army & Airforce bases in Thailand) ... except probably USA ....... so we don't STORM their embassies ... NOT YET .... :p

BangkokPundit

08-03-06, 09:58 PM

On a more general level, I don't really understand why people are blaming Temasek for this. I understand why people are pissed at Thaksin for earning $1.8 billion and paying zero baht in tax. I even understand that people are pissed at Thaksin for 'selling out' to Singapore, although I think even this is stupid, because Thailand (or, well, at least Thaksin) gets several billion dollars from Singaporean taxpayers and doesn't really lose anything -- it's not like AIS is suddenly going to start firing their Thai staff and hiring Singaporeans or something. But what has Temasek done wrong here? :confused:

Your problem jpatokal is that you are thinking rationality and not from a narrow-minded nationalist/protectionist perspective.

Don't question national security!

I am really trying to bite my tongue and not reply here, but I must say one thing on national security. Obviously, people seem to think that the Shin sale has national security considerations. I am not convinced. All electronic communications can be intercepted by the large number of governments who already have such capabilities (ie the NSA in the US). The Singapore government is likely to already have the signals intelligence capability (http://jciss.llnl.gov/IT_RMA/Huxley_Final.pdf) (PDF file) to listen in to the Thai satelites or Thai mobile phone communications already. I don't see how this is really increased by Temasek buying Shin. If the Thai government/military is really worried, perhaps they should invest in communications equipment to allow them to encrypt their communications this would Singapore and other countries on listening in regardless of who own the satelite or the mobile phone network.

Finally, Singapore has airforce bases in Thailand? Or are people worried about the Singapore Air Force training (http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/news_and_events/nr/2004/nov/12nov04_nr.html) in Thailand?

Wisarut

09-03-06, 12:19 AM

Yes, Leasing Udorn Airforce Base and Fort Inwasa in Dan Makham Tia, Kanchanaburi to Singaporean Armed Forces for cash might be a good business for top brasse ... but Many Thailanders believe that it will retrun to the way Yank had set up the military bases in Thailand .... Hiving extraterrestrial rights on Thai soil is so ANATHEMA that Mnay Thailand consider SHOOTING those foreign troops with NO mercy!

GWR

09-03-06, 08:55 AM

You seem to be saying that the armed forces of Thailand are out of control. In which case, wouldn't it be better to put them on the straight and narrow first?;)

Don't you think it's a bit wierd to victimize innocent Singaporean soldiers. Their country isn't big enough to have large training areas, and they believe they have been invited into Thailand in good faith. Are you just going to let the real rotten apples get away with it yet again? There is a definite need to create government that is capable of gradually reining in the frequent excesses of the armed forces. That will be a slow process, and will require something far more serious government that the kind of playtime politics that Thaksin has to offer.

This kind of action will only alienate Singapore. There are countries in the world you can afford to alienate. This is not one of them. And frankly, Singapore can hardly be labelled a rogue state by any stretch of the imagination.

Take Thai Airways for example. There is a plain and simple reason why it is beginning to come under the shadow of Singapore Airways. Poor management! I'm sure there are very capable people in TA, but all too often they get to see their sound judgement F'ed over by greedy politicians and millitary people. And I'm sure they have gained nothing from a PM who deliberately rubbished them as a means to strengthen his own aviation interests.

Wisarut

09-03-06, 10:51 AM

KHun GWR,
You are right to say somethign like that ... but Many ordinary folks whoget NO benefit from foreign troops stationedin Thgailand would have very different viewpoitns from you viewpoints :p

Wisarut

11-03-06, 06:28 PM

Now, may Thai peopel said:

"If Temasek is goign to conclyude the deal on Shin Corp purchase, You would have to swim into the Sea of BLOOD from Thai people! Ypou woull be drown into our Sea of Blood for SURE!"

Look at this and you'll see:
http://www.manager.co.th/Around/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000033523
http://www.matichon.co.th/prachachart/prachachart_detail.php?s_tag=02p0101090349&day=2006/03/09
http://www.matichon.co.th/prachachart/prachachart_detail.php?s_tag=02p0102090349&day=2006/03/09
http://www.thannews.th.com/detialNews.php?id=T0120951&issue=2095
http://www.thannews.th.com/detialNews.php?id=T0820959&issue=2095
http://www.thannews.th.com/detialNews.php?id=T0120955&issue=2095
http://www.thannews.th.com/detialNews.php?id=T0120953&issue=2095
http://www.thannews.th.com/detialNews.php?id=T012095b&issue=2095
http://www.thannews.th.com/detialNews.php?id=T092095c&issue=2095

Wisarut

11-03-06, 10:46 PM

When Temasek Stumbles, Singapore Stumbles.

""We hear a lot from Singaporeans about transparency and what integrity they have in business," says Thitinan, the Thai professor, of the Shin Corp. deal. "But I'm afraid that by their own standards, Temasek has failed the test.""

http://www.singapore-window.org/sw06/060320fo.htm

Fortune Magazine
March 20, 2006
By Eric Ellis

IS Ho Ching Losing Her Touch? That's what some are asking about Temasek Holdings' formidable chief executive after a string of embarrassing setbacks.
In February the Singapore government investment agency's wholly owned PSA was trumped by Dubai's deep-pocket sheikhs, who outbid it for Britain's port operator, P&O.

Temasek walked away with a $50 million profit on its stake, but it was cold comfort for losing the chance to become the world's No. 1 port operator (though subsequent challenges could yet undo the Dubai deal). Then Temasek's $1.9 billion purchase of Thailand's Shin Corp, owned by Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's family, filled Bangkok's streets with protest.

Thais are grumpy that Thaksin paid no tax on his windfall and that he sold strategic assets to a foreign-government-owned agency.

"Temasek underestimated the political fallout," says Thitinan Pongsudhirak, a professor at Bangkok's Chulalongkorn University. "The deal has not been transparent. Whether they like it or not, Temasek has made itself a player in Thai politics, and that puts its investment at risk."

Temasek is also under fire in Jakarta, where politicians want it to unwind its investment in communications giant Indosat. With another Temasek-owned company, SingTel, owning a half stake in competing mobile operator Telkomsel, they fret about Singaporean domination of Indonesia's phone market. That was after the Indian government denied Temasek approval to buy into mobile operator Idea Cellular, India's fifth-largest, because SingTel already owns part of Bharti, the No. 1 operator.

Temasek's problem--and advantage--is that it is 100% owned by Singapore's Ministry of Finance. Its board is studded with bureaucrats and businessmen.

Its $80 billion portfolio includes majority stakes in most of the city-state's leading companies, including Singapore Airlines and defense contractor Singapore Technologies. CEO Ho is the wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, who is also Finance Minister.

With that pedigree, it is little wonder Temasek gets its calls returned. But it also makes it a magnet for controversy across Asia, where the trend is for governments to get out of business. Even in Singapore some consider Temasek too powerful. "Singapore would be better served," says Manu Bhaskaran, CEO of Centennial Asia Advisors, a Singapore economic-risk consultancy, "with companies in the hands of an array of private-sector shareholders."

Some of Temasek's investments are proving troublesome on the financial as well as the political front. Fiber-optic cable operator Global Crossing, in which Temasek took a 62% stake in 2003, lost $336 million in 2004 and another $278 million in the first nine months of last year. In February the Temasek-controlled DBS Bank took a $700 million writedown on its Hong Kong operation, the former Dao Heng Bank, which it bought in 2001 for $5.4 billion, a price it said then was fully valued. And Temasek's 60%-owned wafer business, Chartered Semiconductor, although poised for a turnaround, has had losses of more than $1 billion since 2001. Chartered shares have lost 90% of their value since 1999, an affront to Ho's mantra that Temasek is a value investor.

To be sure, market leaders like Singapore Airlines and SingTel are stellar performers, helping bring Temasek profits of $4.7 billion on revenue of $42.2 billion for the past fiscal year. But some, like Steve Chia, a member of Singapore's Parliament, don't think that's good enough. Chia described Temasek's shareholder return of 1% annually over the past five years as "poor," compared with the Singapore Straits Times Index's 2.7% gain over the same period.

Temasek, which declined to make Ho or any other executives available for comment, has maintained that it is simply a benign investor and that there's no government involvement in its dealmaking. Perhaps. But that's not how others see it. "We hear a lot from Singaporeans about transparency and what integrity they have in business," says Thitinan, the Thai professor, of the Shin Corp. deal. "But I'm afraid that by their own standards, Temasek has failed the test."

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http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/060308/15/3z7lk.html

Wednesday March 8, 9:39 AM
THAI PRESS: Protesters Rally At Singapore Embassy

BANGKOK (Dow Jones)--A group of protesters rallied Tuesday in front of the Singapore Embassy in Bangkok, demanding that Temasek Holdings Pte. Ltd. (TEMAH.YY) pull out of its takeover of Thailand's Shin Corp. PCL (SHIN.TH) or face a boycott of all Shin products and services, The Nation reported Wednesday.

About 50 activists from the People's Alliance for Democracy, which has led rallies against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra in the past few weeks, also submitted a letter to a senior embassy official.

The letter, addressed to Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, called on Temasek to nullify the Shin deal by Thursday, citing a threat to Thailand's national security, the report said.

Temasek's units, Cedar Holdings and Aspen Holdings, bought a 49% stake in Shin Corp. from the family of Thaksin in late January. The sale sparked anti-Thaksin sentiment as many critics said the deal lacked transparency.

Cedar and Aspen are making a public tender for the remaining shares of Shin.

Thursday is the last day of the tender offer and the deadline for Temasek to alter the terms of its public tender if it concludes there are factors that could significantly damage Shin's status and assets, according to the Nation.

Newspaper Web site: www.nationmultimedia.com

Wisarut

11-03-06, 10:54 PM

Anti-Thaksin, anti-Singapore, the swell grows
By Marwaan Macan-Markar
Asia Time (English veersion of Manager Daily in Hongkong)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/HC07Ae02.html

BANGKOK - Singaporeans living in Thailand or visiting as tourists may have reason to feel nervous at the manner in which their affluent city-state is portrayed in the increasingly bitter political debate that has engulfed Bangkok.

Three anti-government demonstrations in February, which attracted thousands of largely middle-class Thais, offered glimpses of this hostile sentiment towards Southeast Asia's
richest country - although to date there have been no reports of attacks against Singaporean nationals.

"Welcome to Thailand: The Second Branch of Singapore," read one of the less provocative banners held by the demonstrators at one public rally. During these rallies, all a speaker has to do is castigate Singapore as a nation trying to buy its way into Thailand and the crowds roar in agreement.

Singapore as the scapegoat has its antecedents in a deal, made public late January, between Shin Corp, a telecommunications conglomerate founded by Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and Temasek, the investment arm of the Singapore government.

Shin Corp was sold to Temasek by the Shinawatra family, which ran the company after Thaksin shifted from being billionaire tycoon to running the government, in a deal which fetched family shareholders US$1.85 billion in cash. Typical of Thai stock market transactions, no taxes were paid on the transaction.

Almost immediately, a bout of Singapore-bashing began to manifest itself in sections of the Thai-language media. "Our country has become a colony of Singapore," wrote a columnist in the January 25 edition of Kom Chad Luek, one of Thailand's leading local language dailies.

There even was a hint of anti-Chinese racism in the editorial. ''We should be aware of the danger from the black-haired and small-eyed foreigners. "We won't have anything left over the next few years because those black-haired and small-eyed foreigners came to be involved in every single policy in Thailand."

The warning that rising hostility against Thaksin could also be directed towards Singapore manifested itself in February during protests by a group of activists in front of the Singapore Embassy in Bangkok, calling on Temasek to cancel the deal.

Thailand's English-language newspapers have drawn attention to "xenophobia" and the "anti-foreigner" sentiment in articles reflecting the mood of a city angry at the Shinawatra family. Shin Corp owned key sectors of Thailand's economy, most notably telecommunications, which critics have indicated should remain in Thai hands for national security reasons. This week, the leader of Thailand's opposition Democrat Party, Abhisit Vejjajiva, told journalists at the Foreign Correspondents' Club of Thailand that there were important national security issues that raised concerns about the deal. He added, though, that "most Thais do not want us, as a nation, to slip into that kind of nationalism".

"If Temasek cooperates [in making known the conditions of the Shin Corp sale], I don't see why there would be a reason for resentment to be directed at Singaporeans," he said. So far, though, Temasek has withheld details about the US$1.85 billion deal.

The Shin Corp deal is only one of the many issues that have angered the government's critics, which have recently found expression through a series of massive rallies. The Thaksin administration is also being charged with corruption and financial irregularities, intimidating the media and undermining independent institutions set up to check the power of the government.

A grouping of anti-Thaksin people have formed the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) , which on Sunday called for a large-scale display of civil disobedience in the campaign to unseat the premier. They have set up camp in a park near Government House, which will be the target of ongoing rallies and demonstrations.

Anti-Thaksin campaign leader Sondhi Limthongkul said the protesters would not budge until Thaksin resigned. Thaksin has called elections for April, two years ahead of schedule, but the opposition parties have decided to boycott them.

The PAD, which organized a massive rally on Sunday, has stopped short of endorsing or opposing a petition for a royally-appointed prime minister, lodged by people related to the royal family, senators, academics and other prominent figures.

Tied to Singapore
Singapore is currently Thailand's second-largest investor after Japan. In 2004, its investments were estimated at $600 million. The portfolio includes banks, blue-chip property development and shares in the hospital and hotel sectors - many purchased in the wake of Thailand's 1997 financial collapse. The largest stockbroker in Thailand's Securities and Exchange Commission is a Singaporean entity, Kim Eng Securities.

Foreigner-bashing is not new to Thailand. In the wake of the 1997 financial crisis, there was plenty of anti-foreigner finger-pointing by the Thai middle class that lasted up to 1999, when the Thai economy started to recover.

Foreigners - largely Westerners - were faulted for creating the conditions that led to the Thai economy's collapse, including Western currency traders and hedge funds speculating against the Thai baht.

In the early 1970s, the target was the Japanese. In the vanguard were university students enraged at Thailand's trade deficit with Japan and the latter's dominance of the local economy. The students called for a boycott of Japanese goods, a Japanese-owned gym was attacked and, most dramatically, hundreds of students surrounded the hotel where the then Japanese prime minister Kakuei Tanaka was staying, and chanted anti-Japanese slogans. Today Japan is the largest investor in Thailand, with over 1,100 different Japanese companies operating here.

Ironically, Thaksin earlier leveraged that anti-foreign sentiment to his political advantage when he set up his Thai Rak Thai (Thais Love Thai) party in 1998 and rode a nationalistic wave to electoral victory in January 2001, the beginning of his first term in office.

On taking office, Thaksin implemented new limits on the number of foreign consultants state entities were allowed to hire and revised the terms of engagement with Japanese contractors working on the new airport that required 80% of the building materials they used be sourced in Thailand.

"Thaksin is now at the receiving end of this Thai nationalist streak after selling Shin Corp," said David Streckfuss, a US academic specializing in Thai political culture. "The Singaporeans are the unfortunate targets of this feeling that foreigners cannot protect and represent the interest of Thais."

(Inter Press Service with additional reporting by Asia Times Online)

Wisarut

11-03-06, 11:00 PM

The following are the English words from Thai people to tell Singaporean about theit ainti Singaporean viewpoints:

Opinion 50 (THAI) Said:
ANTI SINGAPORE PRODUCTS AND COMPANIES.
SAME AS CHINESE AND KOREAN PEOPLE ON THE WORLD ANTI JAPAN PRODUCTS AND COMPANIES
DUE TO NANGIN AND WORLD WAR 2 that Japanese soldiers killed many people, baby,women,old people .
Nangin River chane the colour from white to RED BLOOD.
So many people in the world now anti the countries who want the empower to takeover others .

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Opinion 55 (thai in swiss) Said:
Yes, Opinion 50. I totally agreed with you. Well,, that is life...that is the fate of this planet...and it is also because the greedy minds of people. I am half Chinese Thai. As a chinese, I hate Japanese, as a Thai, I hate Singaporean. Japanese women love to pretend they are cute, Japanese men crazy about s..e ..x, Singaporean women are jealous about Thai woman, Singaporean men look down on Thai man. But after all, I still believe there are some good Japanese and Singaporean....

Anyway, Taksin...get out..go to Singaporean...look for your ffff ing dad...

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Wisarut

11-03-06, 11:07 PM

Singapore - Give our 3 Provinces (Kanchanaburi, Khon Kaen, Udorn Thani) back NOW!

http://www.manager.co.th/Daily/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000033409

Singapore has evil aim to GRAB Logistic system in Thailand for themselves:
http://www.manager.co.th/Local/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000033489

Opinion 103 by Khon Thai
If we Kick Thakjsin OUT, Start Kra Cana IMMEDIATELY because Singaporean Governm keeb Bribing Thai politicians form all parties .... because the existign of Kra canal men the Death of Singapore!
Intrellectualks wh oOPPOSE Kra canal or even land bridge should be COOKED ALIVE on Frying WOKs with full of Burning Oil!
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Opinion 110 by Khon Thai in Singapore
I agree with comment 103. If we manage to have this canel, Thailand will win all countries here in Sount East Asia. It's because we have some corruptor in the government, this project has been dropped out many times.
Get rid of thaksin, then all Thai people will have more peaceful life and countries.
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Opinion 170 by I love Thailand, too.
Thai people!!!
Let's suppose that the "canal" is being dug up right now, but, however, Thailand has ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OVER financially by Singapore. Who do you think will benefit??? Of course, that big ass and the rest of his families and friends plus the Singapore people!!!!!!!!!! What can we do??

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Opinion 164 by Old RTAF veterant/spraya@thaimail.com

Ai Khongsak had made EVIL contract with Singaporean firm ot handle the maintianace of RTAF jets at Takli Airforce Base ... while looking down upon RTAF maintainanace staffs who can doe the same thign as Singaporean firms at Cheper prices!
We better hunt down the traitors like Ai Kongsak before flyign away to Singapore!

Wisarut

11-03-06, 11:14 PM

Khun GWR Said:

Will the poor get conned into spilling their own blood for someone else's sake yet again?

My Answeer; Probabaly ... but Now, Many Thai people said they have NOTHING to LOSE by going AGAINST both Thaksin and Singapore!

Wisarut

12-03-06, 04:31 AM

Opinion 155 by Kho Jam

Better warn Singaporeans Thailand to tkae Air Asia and Tiger Air (if SQ are nto avaiable) to go back home soon or they will have NO chance to comne back ... Time is runnign otu for them!

Opinion 157 by P.

Yeah, I totally agree to kick both Thaksin and Singapore OUT.

When we make a merit at Thai temple in Singapore, Singaporeans have filled up the aircon Sala while PROHIBITING Thailanders to go inside ... leaving Thailanders to get burnt in the hot sun.

Opinion 174 by big26th@yahoo.com

Dear compatriots who work on transnation firms, DO you still remember how Singaporean in those Companies keep insulting US? No matter how good and how much experience Thai officers in such firms are, we will get NO promotion from Farang Boss ... whether they are real Farang with blong or reed hair or Farang with black hair (Singaporean).

SIngaporean Keep Look down upon us while licking the Farang's Balls ... and turng Thai officers into 3rd class citizen in their home land .... My Own Home!

It is the good change for us NOW to make Offensivew Assultsso thsoe Singaporeans would learn very hard way that they have NO right to BULLY and Discreminate AGAINST us!

Opinion 171 by Anti-Singaporean

I NEVER fond of Singapore since I was very young (17 years ago).

1) Singapre Keeps Bribing Thai Politicians to Cancel Kra Canal and Delay Suvannabhum Airport to such extend that I told my kins that 'Don't Bring Me to Singapore, Just bring me to BKK would be OKAY!"

2) I have met Singaporean when I start working 6 years ago. That SIngaporean is NOT smart but he is good on trading ... That Singaporean told me NOT to do anythign I have come up with my own mind, but he DID NOT give him his own viewpoints to go AGAINST my viewpoints!

3) 2 Years ago, I have worked togather with Singaporean and that Singaporean ONLY thinks that "Money is EVERYTHING!" Such kind of viewpoint is EXTREMLY Selfish type of Capitalism without doubt.

I have seen the High Level Singaporean Consultant for my company who
got extremely high salary .... That Old men from Singapore asked
Thai subordinates (my friends) to pay for his private lunch for him
and his friends despite of the fact that his salary alone could pay
for that expesive private lunch without problem.

This must be Singaporean business practice to ask NATIVER people
to pay for the meals ... even though he have more than enough cash
to pay for suych meals

4. Singapore keeps using Money bags stuffed with gold coins and gold bars bars Bashing on Thai people's head since theit telecom business has reached the limitation on domestic market. Therefore, Temaske is going to use cheap capital bases by takign other people's money to take over the financial institutes, telecom and aviation business in Thailand.

5. Singapore using cash and ROTTEN fleets of Jet to RTAF in the exchange for Sovereign on Air Space .... despite for the fact that our ancestors have fought tyo keep the Sogerign of Air Space!

I have No fond of Singaporean products, Singapore tourism or other Singaporean stuffs. Use your own viewpoitn to prove my words .... and you'll see why I say so!

Opinion 176: from the-dark-justice.hotmail.com

Even Taxi Driver in Singapore still INSULT Thailanders as "Siamese Pigs" [AKA Tue Siam] \and point out
that most the menial workeres are Thailanders, nto Singaporean.

New Generation of Singaporean have a BIG aims for MBA ... so they can make Money at the level of Madness
while Insulting Thailanders

GWR

12-03-06, 10:42 PM

I can't read this stuff. It's just so F'ing negative and downright nasty that it will do more to create civil war than anything Sondhi has managed to date. And it won't do anything to put rice on the table either. I get the impression that most of the contributors to these forums are comparatively well-heeled. I doubt they know anything about the realities of the desperate 19 million that elected Thaksin.

However, I have to blame Thaksin and all the PMs that preceded him, as they have obviously done nothing to release the tensions that these forums show is building up. There seems to be no appreciation in these forums that the educated have done quite well out of keeping the poor poor. As always, they seem to want the poor to be their scapegoats.

Nekochan

12-03-06, 11:37 PM

I must admit something, the Singaporians are better!!

That is a harsh reality. You are in a rapidly changing world, anyone who is better equiped, organised with future perspectives will prevail.

Mr. Lee himself predicted Asia will surpass the West within the next 40 years. My point is.....did he really mean the Chinese??? or the rest of Asia,too??

Even I can say our "dear leader" must go. He has no right to hang on. But Singaporean business practices are not to blamed. They do not rob us, we just skew ourselves.

A farang may ask you why Thais always have someone or something to blame (bad traffic, my dad has a sick buffalo-no that's from Mangosauce!). Mr. Soros was to blame for 1997 crisis, but this guy was the culprit, or someone else like the Burmese??

Have you ever watched Bang Ra Chan? (2 stars - forgettable).

As long as there are no fundamental changes in Thailand, here we are with nowhere to go.

Wisarut

13-03-06, 12:31 AM

Dear Khun GWR, Khun Nekochan,

I totally agree with your viewpoints ... but I have to voice
what my fellows THINK about Singaporean because
I share their NEGATIVE viewpoints as well!

Fortunately, I would NOT translated the even WORSE viewpoints from Thai people.
because some of them are too long and too complicated to translate here at
very concise sentences.

Khun Nekhchan, the Student of 1970's generation had done EXACTLY the same thing
I described here ... Even so, Japanese business in Thailand still prospere ....

Wisarut

13-03-06, 01:35 AM

The followign article in Khom chad Luiek has shone the VERY reason I have to write "Thailanders' Hatred toward Singaporean ERUPT" at the FIRST Place:

http://www.komchadluek.net/column/think/2006/03/so07.php

It's a collusion between Ai Khongsak and Empress of Wang Jan Song Lah
to allow the Singaporean Airfoces Stationing at Udonthani AFB while allowigng
5000 Singaporean troops Stationing at Kanchanaburi, Khonkaen -> both for PERPETUATY, and Udornthani for at least 15 years.

We had KCKED YYankee out of Ramasoon Base at Udorn before ... btui the Traitors with Square are willign to sell out the country we keep Indepemndence!

This is a BIG Humiliation for Thai Patriot's viewpoints -> the same Humilation that Shorten the life of Prince Damrong in just 1 year after coming back to Thailand in 1942 ... just after fining the IJA troops marching in BKK ....

Even worse, That leader with Square face have sold the Sattelite which received Royal Name for Auspecious Event to Temasek despite of the fact that such satelites BELONG to Thai people!

// ---------------------------------------------

The conclusion:

SInaporean, You are going to face with another Serithai/Bangrachan sooner or later!

// -------------------------------
Khun Nekochan, NEVER Give such Insult Words toward Bangrajan People like THIS, I beg YOU!

Wisarut

13-03-06, 02:04 AM

More Positive viewpoints on Thai-Singaporean Debacle:

Thai protesters are not targeting Singaporeans

Re: "Singaporeans are being unreasonably targeted by irresponsible Thai protestors", Letters, March 11.
[http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/03/11/letters/letters_20002490.php]

The protestors are not targeting Singaporeans.
The have asked for the Singapore government's cooperation to get to the bottom of the Temasek deal since the company is a government-sponsored body. The Singaporean authorities have responded that the sale was merely a business transaction. Consumers also have a right to decide where to spend their money.

International issues of corporate social responsibility, transparency, due diligence and good governance are also involved. Demonstrations are routinely held in many cities around the world against corporations that pay bribes, use child labour or degrade the environment. Products of these offending corporations are regularly boycotted.

It is not a question, as the Singaporean letter-writer (Mr. Gordon Koh)
puts it, of dragging Singapore into our "mess". It is asking for a display of sensitivity and social consciousness from a neighbour whose involvement has contributed to the foul-smelling "mess" in the first place. The neighbour should not brush aside these requests by holding his nose and simply saying this is none of my business.

Atip Munvit

Bangkok

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Singapore government must show some sensitivity

It was typically glib and disingenuous of the Singapore government to dismiss the Temasek takeover of Shin Corp as a normal business transaction over which it has no control. Temasek is headed by the wife of the Singaporean prime minister and the government holds the dominant bloc of shares.

Contrast this to what happened in the United States a few days ago. DP World, a Dubai-based company that purchased for US$6.8 billion [Bt266 billion] a firm that runs the ports of New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia, had to announce divestiture from the deal after running into a political storm and public outrage in America because a Middle Eastern company was seen as taking over a key infrastructure sector. It was reported that Sheik Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the UAE prime minister and emir of Dubai, had advised the company to pull out.

If only the Singapore leadership could display similar sensitivity. Long-term relations between Thailand and Singapore will likely not be affected. But the episode again reinforces the image of Singapore as a greedy and insensitive economic animal in the minds of the people of this region.

Prapa Tepchat

Bangkok

GWR

13-03-06, 11:16 AM

Wisarut

13-03-06, 02:19 PM

Well take a lok at Tahi Consumer Advocate on Boycott Issue here:
http://www.consumerthai.org//good/show_page.php?t=7&s_id=83&d_id=81

http://www.consumerthai.org//good/images/ThuMarch2006144650_ART_Boycot_p3.jpg
http://www.consumerthai.org/images/pic_stopft/ft_logo001.gif

Wisarut

13-03-06, 03:17 PM

Now, the Hatret toward Singapore GROWS to reach unprecedent level ... SOme even want to TERMINATE the reltionship between Thailand and Singapore .... through the WAR declaration ...

http://www.manager.co.th/Around/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000034192

Opinion 246 by One Thai
B'cuz the Singapore has intervened Thailand every which ways, from...business, economics & politics. The most dangerous is Singapore has invaded a national security & sovereignty of Thailand...!!!

Yes, you are absolutely right...we should blame to our dirty politicians (Thug-sin is the notorious one) who are acting as traitors. Not only we should blame our dirty politicians, but we should also hung them in the public place (like Sanam Luang), as they are guilty in a "treason" charge.

Anyway, please open your eyes (to read) & your head (to think)...and, you will find the truth...!

BTW, if you really think Singapore is better than Thailand, then, you should move (your family & yourself) to live in Singapore. May be you will be able to find the "real" darkside of Singapore...

Opinion 132 by Free Thai
Hey.. Mr. Lee listen carefully.
You must take your Temasek out of our big kingdom back to your very very small island now.

Opinion 126 by Hate singapore

Studpid n arrogant chinx singaporean go to hell. you people will be cursed and will live unhappily everafter. Wake up you people, you are not honored by white people at all but your dirty money. They always laugh n look down at you. What a pity !!! those chinx worship white people as God.

Opinion 125 by TALINGCHANIAN

MR PM I TELL U WHAT. YOU WILL NOT BE WELCOMED IN THAILAND AS LONG AS THIS SHIN CORP DEAL IS STILL ONGOIN.GOOD LUCK PAL

Opinion 122 by BANGRAJAN LADY

I CONDEMN TAHKSIN OF BEING A SELFISH MAN EVER IN THE THAI HISTORY. HE HAS NO MORAL
NOTHING IN HIS MIND EXCEPT MONEY AND MONEY.
PLEASE LEAVE OUR COUNTRY TO YOUR BELOVED COUNTRY THAT IS SINGAPORE. GET OUT OF THAILAND WITH YOUR GANG.

Opinion 114 by Sing GET OUT
To PM Lee,

You have no religion so you don't understand what is the definition of STELLING. You are steeling our telecommunication business. What about the US Government taking away your property, would you allow this????

Opinion 108 by Sanction
To PM Lee,

Go away, we do not accept your dirty and greedy money. This is my country.

GET OUT NOW AND FOREVER, BEFORE YOUR COUNTRY IS SINKING TO THE OCEAN...!!!!

Opinion 102 by Thai
To PM Lee,

Get out of my country. We Thai people will join in kicking your business out of our country. Be careful, you will certainly deserve what you have done to our country. Looking at your unhappy face ..what a shame...

Opinion 88 by Thai
Singapore is the parasite of asean. Now Singapore is sucking our blood by getting helping from Tyrant, Thuksin who is not thai in his manner. I never feel like this before, Satan-Tyrant-Thuksin. I gonna kick you if I see you in oversee. Get Out!!!!!!!

Opinion 2 by Thai People
To Mr. Prim Minister Lee

On behalf of Thai people, I warn you not to interfere in our country. If you still insist to take over Shin's business,The tranquillity of friendship between Thai and Singapore I do not guarantee.

Opinion 86 by Total War wing S'Pore
Wrap the dead body of Traitor with Square Face with Singaporean Flag -> before throwing the body into bonfire
After that, Wrap the ash of that Traitor and throw into Embassy of Singapore at Sathon ...
Before SHUTTING Down that Embassy -> Terminate the Relationship with Singapore
Until Singaporean have LEARNT very hard way that Thailand are not the same whore cats you pick up at Orchard Road
while they are withnessing the slowly sunk island ...

Opinion 111 byt Charge!

************* War Declaration AGAINST S'Pore! *************

S'Pore has shown their viewpoints that the taking over of Thai telecom business is just ANOTHER Business Condition.
This kind of viewpoint is a clear sign that S'Pore government NEVER see Thailand as a friend.
Friends NEVER Stab the back of their friends like THIS!

We conclude that S'Pore Government wants to turn Thailand into a big colony just like
British Empire had turned Indian Subcontinent into theri crown colony,
after becomign the threat AGAINST the Independence/Sovereign/Existence of Thailand.

It is about time for Thai compatriots liek us to TERMINATE the relationship with Singaporean people onnce for ALL!

This measure will turn Singaporean assets in Thailand into "Enemy Properties" which Thai government after Thaksin
will come to seize them in the same way as the Declaration of War AGAINST Prussia on July 22, 1917.

Wisarut

13-03-06, 11:28 PM

Now, Dr. Seri Wongmontha (a famous homo professor on Mass media) has told people in Sanam Luang in midnight of march 14 that

"I have to go to join with Demostrators at Snam Luang despite of the Death Threat. I want to Sing National Anthem of Thailand until I was buried .... and I NEVER want to sing the National Anthem off Singapore!

Our country is going downhill ... Even other people are asking us to step backward by 1 step, we would NEVEWR back down -> goign AHEAD to confront with PM Thaksin in front of public ... even at the risk to be cut down by Heavy machine guns in front of Government House!"

Furthermore, Prof. Phoowadon of Thammasart U. had said Madame Ho Ching KNOWS a lot about Thailand MUCH more than PM Thaksin because she has sent her younger brother (Mr. Ho Kwuang Ping) to run a toopiaca monopoly in Thailand for dacades (via Thai Wah Group?). Furthermore, Madame Ho Ching has sent her younger sister to study at Chiang Mai U. as the 5th column for Singaporean Government

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Legacy of PM with Square Face

- Singaporean Army Barracks in Kanchaburi [NO DOngs and Thailander ALLOWED into that FORT] along with 5000 Singaporean troops ready to shoot Thai people like shooting mad dogs.

- Udorn Airforce Base has become another Singaporean Airforce Base -> NOT even Thai RTAF men are ALLOWED into that AFB!

- Artillery Shooting Range for Singapore Army in Khon Kaen and Kanchanaburi -> Not even Thai RTA men are ALLOWED into that Shooting Range!

Protection Motherland by Ourselves - NEVER let foreign troops Point theri rifles on our heads!

Wisarut

14-03-06, 01:58 PM

Opinion 19:
If Bastxxx Temasek REFUSES to back down,
We have to SHUT DOWN Singapore Embassy at Sathon
along with otehr Singaporeans Interests in our Motehrland

We'll see how Temasek will become after tasting this Forbidden Fruit
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Opinion 13 from Samut Prakarn Man

When Singaporean Investors asking for 10 Million Baht housing loan such as Villa Acadia (60 Square Wah - 240 Sq Meter), they got Loan of 100% of both Land/house price from the Banks - even the land alone is about 30000-40000 Baht/Sq W (about 7500-10000 Baht/Sq. Meter) ... and reap the profit from this scheme.

On the other hand, Thailanders have NO right to get the loan MORE than 80% of Land//House price even though the alnd/house price are quite affordable (about 1.2 million Baht). Such kind of Discrimination AGAINST their own fellows so they CANNOT stand on their feet AGAINST foreign investors.

This must be a sure sign that local Thai Banks have become subsidiaries for Foreign Banks ... so they have come up with such Discriminations to reap more BLOOD from Thai people to serve theri Foreign Masters/Mistresses!

Wisarut

14-03-06, 10:19 PM

Opinion 16:

If our land of Siam is STILL have INDEPENDENCE,

WHY we have to SEE Singaporean Fighter Jet on Thai Soil?

Why we have to SEE Singaporean Army with 5000 troops on our Motherland?

Why we have to SEE Singaporean Firm Seize our Sattelite Orbit ... and Ask Thai people to Pay Tribunal Tax to Singqapore before usign Sattelite?

Why we have to SEE Singaporean Government Coming up with Tricks
to turn Thailanders under Bondage of Singaporean People?

WHY Singaporean Government KEEPS Meddling into Thai Politics?

WHY PM Thaksin KEEPS SELLIGN out the Coutnry to Singapore?

WHY PM Thaksin Cooperating with Singaporean Government to Turn Thailand into Singapore's Colony?

Thailanders would NEVER want to be under Singaporean Yoke!

We MUST Kick Singaporeran Troops alogn with Singaporean Jets out of Motehrland IMMEDIATELY!

We MUST KICK Thaksin along with the Cabinate of Traitors and Singaporeasn Business OUT of Thailand NOW!

Thaksin and Singaporean Firms must be in exile OUT of Thailand NOW!

This is a WAY to Protect our MOTHERLAND for our Children and Grandchildren!

Yappofloyd

15-03-06, 12:02 AM

Always interesting how people fall back to nationlistic tendencies when 'their' elites sell out state or national interests to 'those from elsewhere'. Would many share the concerns of ordinary Burmese concerned about the junta selling state telco assests and or rights to a Thai company like Shin Corp?

Reality seems to be in most countries that the rich will flog off anything that isn't tied down to anyone make a buck. The audacity to do such a thing without paying any taxes to the state on the sale, especially when those assests have had state subsidies in the past, is beyond any standard of decency or integrity!

Wisarut

15-03-06, 08:22 AM

It is NOT just a selling of SHin Corp that make Thai people angry, the exisitence of Singaporean Armed FORCES on Thai soil alogn with the signs

"NO DOGS and Thai People ALLOWED Here!"
... whether for training or just to REINFORCE Shin Corp Sell is very ANATHEMA in the viewpoints of Thai people!

jpatokal

15-03-06, 10:31 AM

All this just seems somehow surreal to me... do most Thais even realize that Thailand has approximately 20x the population and almost 1000x the land area of Singapore? :confused: Even Thailand's GDP is 5x higher at $520B vs. $120B...

Wisarut

15-03-06, 03:09 PM

Khun Jpatokal, Most of my country folks would NOT care about the overall GDP even though those urban folks DO care about GDP per head along with Peerchasing Power Per head and Income distribution which are A LOT more matter to them ... :p

This imply that GDP of Thailand must be doubled to break a Trillion US$ threshold along with MUCH better income distribution since the income distribution for Thailand is heading to even worse level despite of the growth due to the effort for National development plan since 1960 ....

Nekochan

15-03-06, 11:42 PM

I always view Temasek's deal the same as US port deal with UAE. If it is related to national security, the government has to aware of the consequences.

If you know that UAE once supported Teliban Regime .... and it is a base for Al Queda operations. So it is the right thing that US congress blocks the deal. Otherwise it would proved difficult later to monitor what they are doing behind the curtain.

My point is Taksin himself has an agenda to make his own wealth selling Thailand's assets. He must take responsibility. We should not vent our anger to others.

Should Americans feel hatred toward Arabs for everything they do??

Although I did mean to offend "Ban Ra Chan" heroic act, the movie portraited the Burmese as absolute villians (beyond your imagination....they were simply BAD BAD). Considering the Burmese had nothing to do with 1997 crisis. Why Burmese?? I do not understand, it seems like there is someone to blame (old enemy). Indeed, we do not like our neighbours: Burmese, Malay and now Singaporians....

I am thinking about another way round. How about TOP TEN list that shows your company has been taken over by the Singaporeans.

10. Company cafeteria starts to serve "Tian Ji" as a French cousine.

9. All forms of social misconducts are banned namely: being late to work, shewing bubble gum, having long hair, reading The Economists, ..... and a long list including forgetting to flush the toilet after used.

8. So CCTVs are installed in all restrooms to monitor if you actually forget to flush the toilet after used.

7. Company liabrary bans nonsense magazines and printed materials such as The Economists, Times, Newsweek ...... and Cosmopolitan. Only "Far Eastern Economics Review" is available.

6. New company policy encourages educated female employees (Master Degree and UP) to reproduce more "offsprings" plus 6 months leave and 1 year bonus.

5. A new company motto "Western Democracy? RUBBISH!!

4. A war room is estabished to combat "Free Press Infidels" and has nothing to do with product marketing.

3. They start to hire intrepreters to communicate between employees and the Board of Director.

2. The new CEO is Mr. Lee Gai and the Board of Director includes Mrs Wan Ho Lee, Mr. Yu Chao Chu, Mr. Yen Lee Wang, Mr. Xian Shoa Min , and a lot of names that you cannot pronounce that right.

1. You have got fired from watching "Brokeback Mountain" during a lunch break.

Wisarut

16-03-06, 01:01 AM

Khun Nekochan,

I like that Top 10 so much, there should be another separated Top 10 for this matter ... This can be a released valve to prevent Singapore Embassy at South Sathon from being utterily TRASHED by Bangkokians ... and Sputherners in BKK
:eek: :p ;) :D :rolleyes: :cool:

Wisarut

16-03-06, 01:11 AM

10. Company saloon starts to serve "Tiger beer" instead of Singha and Chang

9. All forms of social misconducts are banned namely:
Being Late at work Chewing Bubble gums, Reading Manager Daily, and of corse ... ABOUSE yourself - have an orgy in the rest room or library!

8. CCTVs are installed in all restrooms to monitor if you actually ABUSE yourself. or have an orgy in the rest room or library!

7. Company liabrary bans nonsense magazines and printed materials such as
Manager Daily, Thai Post, Matichon, Khaosod, The Nation, Bangkok Biznews....
ONLY Thairath, Bangkok Post, Strate Times, Business Day, and
Than Setthakij ALLOWED

6. New company policy encourages educated female employees (Master Degree and UP) to repruduce more children ... or eve adapt childre if ABSOLUTELY necessary ...

5. A new company motto "Thai Democracy? STUPID!!

4. A war room is estabished to combat "Free Press Rebels" and has nothing to do with product marketing.

3. They start to hire intrepreters or even shamanists/Shrine maiden to communicate between employees and the Board of Director.

2. The new CEO is Mr. Kai Leeblablaba
Land the Board of Director includes

Mrs Ho Lee Wannahnahnah,
Mr. Chao Chu Yooohooohooohooo,
Mr. Lee Wang Yenhenwatthananaaaaa,
Mr. Shoa Min Xianleewatthana,

and a lot of names with long surnames that you cannot REMEMBER ....
Well, this is a way to adapt into local from as a compromise ....

1. You have got fired from watching "Nong Natt" (or similar stuffs - includigng having an orgy in Library)
during a lunch break. :eek:

GWR

16-03-06, 09:21 AM

1) Seemingly respectable employees wear shorts on company outings.

Wisarut

16-03-06, 12:45 PM

More criticism from Khun Suthaichai Yoon on Temasek Debacle :eek:

http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/2006/03/16/w015_86609.php?news_id=86609

ncr

16-03-06, 05:31 PM

I do not understand, it seems like there is someone to blame (old enemy). Indeed, we do not like our neighbours: Burmese, Malay and now Singaporians....Not to mention Cambodians.......
And looking down on Laotians.

Right?

Wisarut

16-03-06, 08:55 PM

Well, even though French Imperilism had prevent Laos and Cambodia from becomign the 5th and the 6th region, it has breed Resentment to many Siamese elite ....

In 1928, there was a newspaper article that suggest Siam to Seize Luang Phrabang Back ... I can testify for that sentimental article since I foiudn that article in Microfim in the collection of Ministry of Interior during the time of King Prajadhipok ..... :eek:

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BTW, the anti-Thaksin Activists said they are going to storm Singapore Embassy in Sathon Thai ... but they might consider heading to Malaysia Embassy since Dato Surin (AKA Dato K. K. Lau) who BAILED Temasek and Kularb Kaeo out of Shin Corp Debacle is a major ATM Machine for MCA, Chinese alliance of UMNO ... :eek: ;)

Fortunately, Dato Surin is Siamese who become a billionair due to Business in Malaysia ..... Thailand office of Dato Surin is within SCB Park Plaza though :rolleyes: ;)

However, Singaporean Ambassador would confront with demonstrators Tomorry march 17 ... as the news implies

http://www.manager.co.th/Home/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9490000036420
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/2006/03/17/w001_87187.php?news_id=87187

Wisarut

17-03-06, 10:23 AM

List of Boycotted Business to Protect Motherland::p

http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/2006/03/17/w006_86782.php?news_id=86782

jpatokal

17-03-06, 03:29 PM

Khun Jpatokal, Most of my country folks would NOT care about the overall GDP even though those urban folks DO care about GDP per head along with Peerchasing Power Per head and Income distribution which are A LOT more matter to them ... :p
What I mean is that the idea of Singapore taking over Thailand is ludicrous. It's like Americans suddenly started having mass demonstrations against Canada because they were afraid of being taken over... :confused:

jpatokal

17-03-06, 03:35 PM

If you know that UAE once supported Teliban Regime .... and it is a base for Al Queda operations.
WTF? What are you basing these ridiculous assertions on? :mad: The UAE in general and Dubai in particular is by far the most liberal society in the Gulf.

I also don't understand how the port operator relates to "national security", especially in the US's case where it's just the terrorism bugaboo (as if you couldn't find enough explosives etc within the country's borders...) -- surely it's the TSA's job to lay out and enforce adherence to security, and it doesn't matter who's running the port?

Wisarut

17-03-06, 08:38 PM

Khun jpatokal,

Well, Most of M16 rifles along with M203 Grenade Launchers
for Thai Armed Forces come from armory in Singapore though ....
This is a must for Navy since the Navy/Marine would not use
HK33 rifle from RTA ordinance since sea brine would rust HK33 rifles.

There are even a rumor from RTA that the ONLY country in Southeast Asia which have production line of AK47 is -> Singapore ... even though Singapore Armed force did not use those AK47 at all .... No so sure if Vietnam Liberation FOrces could produce their own version of AK47 rifles yet ... :eek:

GWR

17-03-06, 09:25 PM

Afghans build them at home!

Wisarut

20-03-06, 01:13 AM

Opinion 41:

To fellow Thais

We must anti Singapore in all matters and at all costs.
This tiny country has been a pain in the ass for the world since
she became a free country since 1965.
The people who live here are very self-centered thus
" greed " is the only religion they have.

Start with AIS, and others accordingly.

Please give more informations on everything this country manages, and collectively, we would help destroying them eventually.

I have known this country for more than 30 years, there are only
two good singaporians, one is already dead and the othere is
not born yet.

Let's anti Singapore at all costs.

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Opinion 38 by Super Y:

Could we stop using fuel from PTT too? It's secretly
belonged Singapore and Shin.... that why we have to use
"high" price gasoline... (when it was lowering so much last year
in the USmarket, but we still stayed at petty high... now
it's rising again...

// -------------------------------------------
Opinion 26 by Agree wa:
Yeah, I've also been thinking of switching to another network... after using AIS since grade 10 back in 1997. Anyhow, gotta do it I guess..

// -----------------------------------------------
Opinion 18 by Thai:

I stopped using AIS since November, 05. Stupid Taksin. I will try stop using everything belong to him and his family as well as CP's products.

Thailand is not Shin land. Bastard..

// -------------------------------------
Opinion 4 by Anti - Singapore!!!!!!:
We, Thai people will protest Singapore by
not using AIS
not travelling to Singpore
Not drinking Tiger beer
Not travelling by Singapore Airlines

Stop using any products endordsed by Singapore
// ------------------------------------
Opinion 2: Fair trader under Democracy

under the unfair trading principal, to boycott AIS is a good idea. LIke banning Tesco of being monopoly trader and be a thread to other Thai producer and farmer to put their product with Tesco brand on top.
Tasinism also mislead the democracy in to capitalism, unfair trade and coruption
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Opinion 63 by Thai in sweden.:
I WILL TELL MY FRIENS AND MY FAMILY IN THAILAND CANCEL AIS.. AND I WILL PAY ALL OF THEM TOO..I HATE CORARUTION TAKSIN HAHAHA

Wisarut

20-03-06, 01:43 AM

The list of Land to be Sold to Singaportean Firms with sign

"No Dogs and Thai People ALLOWED Here!"

1) PP island
2) Tarutao
3) Phuket
4) area around suvannabhum Airport
5) The PANO at Rama 3
6) Port Authority of Thailand at Klojng Toei and Laem chabang (except the area run by Hutchison)
7) The areas along Chao Phraya River all the ways to Ayutthaya!
8) Army Forts in Kanchanaburi
9) AFB at Udornthani
10) Shooting range in Khon kaen

More can be seen here:
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/specialreport/13Mar/y001_87616.php?news_id=87616

Wisarut

24-03-06, 12:30 AM

BTW, Singaporean bankers have already controlled 11 of 13 local Banks in Thailand ....

Furthermore, the new Law which allow 99 Year lease of Land would permit foreinger to SEIZE even Temple area long Chao Phray River all the way from Klong Toei to Ayutthaya ... even Significant places would NOT be spared ...
and thsoe foreingers would ERECT the UGLY sign

"NO Dogs and Thailanderes ALLOWED Beyond this Point!"

Wisarut

24-03-06, 12:47 AM

Now, even a comedian who just finished the Movie "Thai Theeb" ... the story about Thai Dacoits who stole mnay stuffs from IJA station in Thailand told the press that

"We, the Thai people, come to Eliminate the Foreigners who sued thait Local Agent to Seize the Assets of Thai people ... alogn with thousands of Foreign troops stationed in Tahiland!"

Even though he did not mention whcih foreigners they are refgering to, we feel NO doubt that the POINT fingers (indice and middle fingers) to Singaporean ....

Wisarut

25-03-06, 11:29 PM

If Khun Nekochan is HERE, Read This:

Big Suea (Gen. Phijit Kulawanit, a member of Privi Council - adviser of His majesty) said during the meeting with National Economic Adviser Board on March 24, 2006 :

"The Serious Issues I feel very WORRIED are that most of facoties, along with the major business have belogn to Foreigners ... Thai people have belcoe just
become either blue collars slaves or white collar serfs since Singaporean Firms have purchases most parts of Thailand ... jueb coem a nominee owner of country (puppets) .... while SIngaporean people have become actual owner (puppet master) ... UNLESS WE KEEP PLANTING the sees of NATIONALISM on Thai youths .... Otherwise, singing National Anthem mens NOTHING ...."

"Even worse, Thsoe youyths in 3 Southern Provinces KNOW NOTHIGN abotu how to sing Thai Natiuonal Anthem and Sanrasoen Pra Barramee"

"Therefore, it si a DUTY of parents to teach Thai youths to be more RELIGIOUS -> NO More Materialist! .... aliogn with MORE Nationalist .... This is RIGHT way to Develop Human Resourses! "

Wisarut

25-03-06, 11:39 PM

Now, the Grwat leadfer with Square Face wants to Save his skin by asking Big Bung (Gen. Sondhi Bunyakalin) to mobilize Army to SHOOT People .... However, Gen. Sondhi REFUSES to do so ...

However, Mr Newin (a political Eunuch for the great leader and a toy for his Dopy Prince) has adviced the great leader that

"We should MOBILIZE Singaporean Troops stationed in Kanchanaburi and Udornthani to SHOOT Demostrators in BKK"

"And then we will ask Visanu to Decrae Emergency Decreer to turn The Great leader into Chief Commander of Jointed International Troops -> a way to DEPOSE His Majesty -> as a way to Legitimize the Supression by Singaporean Troops before we turn Gen. Sondhi as scrapgoat and DISARM Royal Tahi Armed Forces ....before sending Assasins to KILL Royal Family as the way Cheka had wiped out the Romanov.... " ...

"You can do this sicne we got the moral suppoort from Dammakaya alogn with Singaporean Money .... so just DO IT!" :eek:

Wisarut

15-04-06, 11:15 AM

Details how Singapore Inviadign Thailand

http://www.positioningmag.com/Magazine/Details.aspx?id=47470

GWR

15-04-06, 12:53 PM

Looking at this HATRED dispassionately, I see the following at work. If you live elsewhere in the world and are middle class there is a strong chance you will be well-qualified and actually have a stake (albeit fairly small) in the decision-making process that steers your country. Well, the middle-class are also qualified here; although they may lack some higher level decision-making experience, as will become self-evident below.

Thailand's untouchable aristocracy, top-flight civil service, armed forces and police have long had a monopoly on power which belies the fact that most have them have very few skills that would be bankable elsewhere in the world. What they do have is experience in browbeating and terminating those who don't toe the line, and making a quick buck out of dodgy deals. This immovable presence makes it hard for the more morally-minded middle class to have a natural career progression that takes them up to higher decision-making levels, as they just cannot be trusted by those with 'amnat' (power). Hence, we have the likes of say qualified biologists in government service. When such professionals get to a certain age, they realize they have reached a career ceiling beyond which they cannot progress unless they are prepared to break some of their own moral code. Not surprisingly, most of them decide to carry on at their current level, with a loss of ambition. At (early) retirement, such professionals might expect to be involved in local politics or the Senate. Even those ambitions are stymied, so retirement usually involves just pottering around a small piece of land they bought in the country.

So the talented and qualified often have to play third fiddle to the corrupt relatives of morally bankrupt thugs. No wonder there is widespread resentment! Even when complaint wells up, some outside party (powerless to respond) has to take the blame. It's far too dangerous to name those who are really to blame.