BkkBusTerminals:New(est)SouthernBT [Archive]

pong

19-12-05, 10:37 AM

Ekmai, that old, congested Eastern Bus terminal has the advantage of being along the BTS Skytrain, as the only of BKK's 3 main terminals. Does not seem to be a big advantage, as about any normal bus leaving there is empty and only starts picking up passengers from Bangna and on.
What would you think of being a better location in the far future, also helping relieve Sukhumvit of some 100s of stinky buses per hour:
1.when the BTS is extended to BiTec/bangNa-SamRong, somewhere along/near BiTec. This palce also has many Expressway buses to thonburi etc.
2.When the airportlink is there finally, to Our proud new airport. A new thing for Thailand should then be implied; all in tickets as otherwise the train to there would cost double the busfare to rayong or so, I think. Would open up many more connections, and most likely there may even be a new buslink to thonburi as well from there.

Nekochan

19-12-05, 10:41 PM

Few years ago during Dr. Yongyut's era, OTP had a plan to relocate Ekkamai Terminal to somewhere on Bang Na Trad Highway. I think it would be opposite to Bitec Center. Since it could be within walking distance from Bang Na intersection and BTS.

The plan did not take shape. It was a purpose only. And they need to buy some container yard in the vicinity to obtain more land.

The latest study of SBIA City indicates that they may operate 2 eastern terminals at Ekkamai and ICD. I think they means Truck Terminal near ICD. It has not been heavily used as planned.

Dept of Town Planning had a new purpose to move ICD out completely and locate a new bus terminal there. SRT would never agree. ICD is SRT's money pot (correct English?). Moreover, SRT plans to double its size to 2 M TEU per annum which I intrepret this as 2 M container output annually??

That's equivalent to 200,000 container trucks in&out per month?? (or is it 400,000?)

New bus terminal will be linked to SBIA and Lad Krabang Station of Airport High Speed Rail (How?) for "intermodal" transfer.

The idea is not that bad. But going to new terminal is somewhat far away from city center and passengers have only Airport Rail to go to BKK. Taxi will cost too much.

This is the only think I remember. :)

Wisarut

19-12-05, 11:15 PM

Yep, Lad Krabang ICD is the treasure trove of SRT. and SRT would REFUSE ANY other people to meddle around with theri treasure trove :p ;) :D

There are already 24 daily cargo trips between Lad krabang ICD and Laem Chabang Port and the demand fore mroe daily trips between these 2 destinations is increasing .... despite of the constrains of the available locos.... No wonder, SRT would keep this money maker routes for themselves.

SRT is considering to merge that lad Krabang Truck termianl with Lad Krabang ICD to allow the expansion - thus invesn enhance more wealth to payoff the 40 billion Baht debts, 20 billion Baht pension funds alogn with the massive rehab of the tracks which is the first priority of SRT NOW.

gwmss15

20-12-05, 12:11 PM

Why doesn’t the government look at a all in one place central bus terminal so that all northern eastern and southern buses are together.

In Brisbane Australia in the centre of the city they have an air conditioned underground bus terminal with BRT like access from the north and south.

Could something like this be build say under chatucuk park with connection to expressway and the MRT and BTS for easy passenger access and fast traffic free express bus access.

a sky bridge from the bts mochit could be built that also connects with the MRT and create an underground air conditioned walkway directly into the concourse of the new MO chit 2 underground bus terminal with about 100 to 200 bus parking bays with air conditioned waiting areas and fully electronic info signs in many different languages.

Most importantly an international standard ventilation system for the bus fumes

Buses could be stored at the old Mochit 2 terminal which will be set up as a full bus depot with fueling and maintenance areas bus staff rooms for the bus drivers. this could have a tunnel linking it to the underground bus terminal so extra buses could get to the terminal with out any traffic delays.

The benefits of this are:

1. all intercity buses depart from one place
2. traffic free access for buses
3. Easy passenger access via mrt and skytrain plus bus access either in the terminal or under mochit BTS station as is now.
4. possible smart card ticketing for all Bangkok transport and all Thailand intercity transport
5. multiple language electronic real time departure information for intercity buses at each stop and on the concourse where tickets can be purchased or smart cards refilled and information on buses obtained.
6. large area for bus storage and maintenance of intercity buses on old Mochit 2 site

Cost unknown but would be less than a single subway line but old sites southern and eastern could be sold to help pay for it

What do others think of this?

jpatokal

20-12-05, 02:36 PM

Well, let's think about this for a sec. Brisbane has under a million people and long-distance buses are not a particularly popular way of getting around Australia, it's just too big. Bangkok has at least 10x more people living and is the geographical and transportation hub of the country, so anybody in the south going up north will pass through and vica versa, and buses are still the number one method of travel for short, medium and long distance. So any such terminal would have to mind-bogglingly huge -- and Mo Chit 2 alone is already much bigger than quite a few airports I've been to.

As a reference point, the world's biggest bus terminal (AFAIK) is Tel Aviv Central in Israel, 6 stories tall with a spiderweb of ramps around it, which is also the central hub of a very bus-oriented country's transport system. But Tel Aviv is under 2 million in size and Israel as a whole doesn't have even a tenth of Thailand's population...!

But let's say they excavate a couple of football fields of ground from under Chatuchak. How will the buses get from there to anywhere? The final approach to Mo Chit can already take ages in heavy traffic, and that's for getting north out of the city. You're proposing that every bus to Pattaya and Phuket would have to cross the entire city lengthwise just to get to the places they start from today!

In short, ain't gonna work. The only rational thing to do to keep the three-part division (which makes quite a lot of sense given Thailand's geography), but move the terminals out to the ends of the BTS/MRT lines if/when they're extended. Bonus points will be awarded if they're connected to railway stations and SRT can run express services between them.

gwmss15

21-12-05, 10:11 AM

Did you read the part on the 2 tunnels that would be used to link the terminal to the following:

1. the express way and the normal road system the expressway one is a direct link i.e. bus only (no traffic there except for any on the expressway faster than some stupid routes via Rangsit or Bangna

2. old terminal would be used as bus storage reducing the size of the terminal as only buses going to drop off or pick up passengers on the next trip would be in the underground terminal why keep the extra not in service buses in there when you can clear the old mochit 2 and put them in there plenty of room and with its own traffic free tunnel to the new terminal

3. I agree it would be a big terminal but the one in Queensland has hundreds of bus routes through it most the town buses and handles tens of thousands of people per hour and is right in the centre of the city which would be like having it in silom road and it has 2 traffic free route for buses to get 20km plus from the city before they hit any shared traffic areas

but I could hardly see why you would need more than 200 bus pick and set down points if buses only waited there for pick up and set down not for going on a tea break that’s what the bus storage area is for on the old site.

from what I feel the underground space will be about 300 to 400 meters long and about 100 meters wide

with 2 or 3 levels in it

1. Tickets restaurants and waiting areas and bus info (linked to MRT and BTS)

2. Bus stops 1 to 100 Plus a small area for up to 20 town bus routes that used to serve mochit 2 numbered as A to Z on level 2

3. Bus stops 101 to 200

jpatokal

21-12-05, 01:36 PM

Did you read the part on the 2 tunnels that would be used to link the terminal to the following:
I just reread your post and you didn't say anything about a tunnel to the expressway. ("Connection", yes; "tunnel", no.)

1. the express way and the normal road system the expressway one is a direct link i.e. bus only (no traffic there except for any on the expressway faster than some stupid routes via Rangsit or Bangna
So instead of picking up people along the way, now everybody has to go all the way to Chatuchak to board a bus? How do you think people living in, say, eastern Sukhumvit and going to Pattaya will feel about this?

3. I agree it would be a big terminal but the one in Queensland has hundreds of bus routes through it most the town buses and handles tens of thousands of people per hour and is right in the centre of the city which would be like having it in silom road and it has 2 traffic free route for buses to get 20km plus from the city before they hit any shared traffic areas
Where are you going to route these dedicate expressways in Bangkok, which is already incredible densely built?

By the way, does anybody have any actual BKS ridership figures?

jpatokal

21-12-05, 01:40 PM

On a slightly more constructive note -- I think buses are fundamentally unsustainable as the main means of transport in a country the size of Thailand. both in terms of population and physical size. A decent, fast double-tracked train network connecting Bangkok to at least Chiang Mai, Khorat and Had Yai (and onward to Malaysia) would provide much more capacity and could be done on SRT's existing right of way.

gwmss15

22-12-05, 10:08 AM

I agree on that high speed rail would be much better but I don’t see it happening we can not do it in Australia its unlikely in Thailand I feel

This suggestion was to make bus travel more convenient and centralized and easy to use for locals and tourists alike.

I think the pattaya point is not that relevant because even if they live next to the eastern terminal what happens when the need to go to the south or north so it would only be inconvenient for people who live in the south of Bangkok and only for 1 out of 3 different trip directions.

They could just run an aircond articulated metro bus (similar to the orange aircond city buses but longer) from onnut bts to rayong via chonburi and pattaya to keep the complaints to a minimum they would get a cheaper and just as comfortable bus service. Say 40 baht to chonburi and 70 pattaya and 100 baht to rayong.

I never intended Bangkok to long BRT style lanes because 1 adds cost 2 difficult to find a space to put them I just stated that Brisbane has them but in way the express ways of Bangkok would be not that much slower than a BRT lane anyway as the traffic from my experience is light most of the time for all areas other than bangna for some reason but from mochit area you don’t need to go to bangna to go to pattaya anyway so avoid the traffic

Chatucuck was selected because 1. there is both MRT and BTS access large open space so tunneling and other construction would be simpler as there is no buildings on the service just a park and no the park will not need to be dug up just a small area at one end for access to the underground space during construction.

you could build this under lumpini for all I care but you will need a lot more tunnels under the city to get the buses in and out and the bus storage part would be lost at lumpini the tunnels at lumpini will need to link to the expressways but its much further and more is in the way.

pong

27-12-05, 09:50 AM

Saw this same thread on Thaivisa.com and as I incientally spent a week in BNE/Qld last may, I thonk the poster is WRONG:
BNE has in fact 3 types of different bus loading points:
1.the shoprt-route normal citybuses in the downtown streets, though with good maps, very, very confusing for someone like me quite used to all vagaraies of buses/transport
2.the underground terminal as described is alos very, very confusing, in peak hours horribly overcrowded and ONLY serves longer SUBURBAN bus routes, about greater BNE (about same size as BKK-mahanakorn, but with about 10% of the actual population, I think),
3,the INTERstate Combined terminal for both train and bus is some 1 km out of downtown (in bekpek area) and has about, on BUSY days 3 trains/per 24 hrs (to Sydney, Cairns and the tilt to Rocky), and about 1 or so, on average LONG dist bus per HOUR
Mochit alone has about 25/30 DEPARTURES to anywhere PER MINUTE on busy times, like at 20.00 or 21.00.
IMHO Mochit should be moved out to somehwere near Rangsit, Ekamai to either BitEC/Bang na or Suvan new airpt, and SaiThai too, BUT ONLY WHEN THE EXTENSIONS OF SKYTRAIN OR SUBWAY ARE finished
AND THE whole east BY NOW ALREADY HAS DIRECT busLINKS TO mochit TOO, VIA THE MOTORWAY. paty HAS both BUSES TO mOCHIT AND eKAMAI, AND THE MOCHIT LINK IS OFTEN THE BUSIER!

pong

27-12-05, 09:53 AM

thanks again, khap khun, khun Wisarut, you seem to be very well informed an took yang=anything. It was just a idea of me that I liked to toss up. Nice to read that someone has even thought about it. Putting at somehwere near Lad Krabang/HuaTakhe would mean also a cheaper railink into town, at least possible.

Wisarut

29-12-05, 06:14 PM

I'm not sosure if SRThas anyspace left from Hua Markt to Lad Krabang

Hua Mark to Thap Chang? Definitely heading in conflicts with the local Muslim and BKk Suburb villagers ... :eek:

Jromerz

21-01-06, 12:21 PM

I was wondering if anybody knows the (planned) completion date for the new Southern Bus Terminal. Construction has been ongoing for about half a year now, and they have now started putting in the foundation pillars. The plot of land is on Borom Rachachonanee Rd. adjacent to Puttamonthon Sai 1. It is next to the former Thai Rak Thai office for Taling Chan district (hmmm...). This building is now the office for the construction company. It is quite a large area (I think larger than the present one at PinKlao). There is a large sign at the entrance to the construction site, in Thai says "Satanee Kon Song (Sai Tai)", so I'm assuming that this is really the future Southern Bus Terminal. When I've passed by I haven't had enough time to read the whole sign and find out when they aim to complete it, so I would really appreciate if anyone knows when they aim to finish.

ncr

21-01-06, 01:36 PM

Hmmmm.... that 's interesting news.

So they really started construction of a new Southern Bus Terminal (why haven't we heard about that before on this site???), while they are already planning the Bang Wah Terminal (even though plagued by many obstructions/objections, as we all know)? :confused:

Wisarut

21-01-06, 08:50 PM

Bang Wah Centerr Scrapped -. ONLY 2 New Interchange ALLOWED

Jromerz

22-01-06, 12:33 AM

There have also been many other road infrastructure developments in this area over the past year. I'm not sure if they are related to the new bus terminal though. Flyovers on Borom Rd. at Sai 1 and 3 have been completed, and another one almost completed at Sai 2, to add to the one that was already there. Tawee Wattana Rd. has also been improved and widened slightly. But this may also be because of the almost finished construction of The Crown Prince's residence at the intersection of Tawee and Uttayan roads.

Wisarut

22-01-06, 12:56 AM

Porbably, it is a decree by Sia Oh to speed up such kind of road expansion ...

pong

30-01-06, 02:25 PM

and most of the Rot Ruam formerly ending at SaiThai (now) are already extended to sai2 terminal point, like nr 19, 159, 201 even, and more.
SaiThai was cramped from the very beginning, and who knows why all incoming countrybuses have to backtrack all the way to the crossing near PATA to reverse... thats 4-5 kms. unneeded double up.
And there STILL is the very old SaiThai in BangkokNOI, now only used by 2 or 3 routes over Phetkasem rd and to mahachai, via Ram2. Noone knows it, noone uses it, except for the layover buses.

Wisarut

30-01-06, 02:32 PM

For the bus to Mae Klong, I usually make a ride at Dao Khanong since it is not so congested at Sam Yaek Fai Chai terminal.

Yep, the current Southern bus terminal isfrom donatedland ...so what did you expect?

Jromerz

08-02-06, 11:54 PM

I've managed to read the sign at the entrance of the construction site. The length of construction is planned at 550 days, and is due to be completed by this October. Construction has picked up pace also, and they've now erected 2 - 3 cranes. Let's see what happens...

pong

10-02-06, 10:19 AM

But dear Khun Wisarut: dont you favour the SRT-trains at all times? Yes, I know the buses run more frequently. Also it seems that This year several BMTA-rot ruam routes have been extendedall the way to Mahachai, (old city, amphoe muang) even beyond the former end-point at MuangMai (with all those weird buildings, Thai style). Also former bigbus 8183 over ekkachai Road has been downsized to very frequent sionghthaew, but after a few monthes nr 120 was extended (from Wong Wien Yai too, as the train) over this road also to mahachai.

Wisarut

10-02-06, 12:04 PM

Khun Pong, You are refering to BMTA Bus No. 120 (Klong Sarn - Mahachai) which is run bny the private concessioneers ...

Well, as it is run by Private concession, safety is the LAST thing they are in serious consideration. When I take a look at Bus No 120, I found that it is really dilapidated .... not so sure how many people this bus have killed .... :p

Jromerz

28-03-06, 10:40 AM

Another quick update on the terminal.. Construction is moving along very fast, most of the support pillars seem to have been built already, and now they are moving on to the main building phase.. .. lots of cranes and scaffolding everywhere.. it is shaping up to be quite large .

mdechgan

28-03-06, 01:31 PM

I don't know who ever decided to move the southern bus terminal to its current location there in the first place. Very stupid infrastructure idea. The land was limited in the first place. I heard the previous owner of the land had really high connections to move the terminal there.

Buses coming from the west and south can't u-turn into the terminal, so they have to drive all the way into the PK area and u-turn under the charan-flyover. Its not like there wasn't any traffic there in the first place. They have to pass through major cineplex and central PK. The place is a jammed especially during friday and saturday nights.

The new location's owner I hear is a TRT affiliate. Traffic near sai 2 is currently terrible. Moving the terminal near sai 1 won't help much because of the lack of u-turns on Borom-road. There must be an option for buses to get in and out quickly without disrupting any current local traffic. There should be flyovers for vehicles to get in and out of the terminal directly without having to u-turn.

Jromerz

30-03-06, 10:02 AM

I think that the buses will be able to u-turn at the Sai 1 intersection, because they have completed the flyovers there.. And I think that they are now finishing Sai 1 so that it connects properly with Petch Kasem (ie. wide road all the way, instead of tiny community road that is there now)..

Jromerz

18-06-06, 10:57 AM

here are some photos taken at the construction site to prove that it is actually happening. Sorry for the long URL

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jromerz/sets/72157594189381318/

I was going to take more from various other views, but the guard said that I need authorization first, and his boss wasn't in at the time. I will try to get more photos as the construction progresses.

ncr

19-06-06, 02:35 AM

here are 2 photo's taken at the construction site to prove that it is actually happening.Wow..... looks fairly big. Keep us updated if you can!

Forsberg

19-06-06, 11:39 AM

I am very new here. However, as fas as I remember about the Southern Bus Terminal, the Sai 1 one is a temporary terminal to relief the traffic at the Pinklao one and it will, finally move to Wuttakart Rd., if the plan is still valid.

Nomsen

19-06-06, 06:14 PM

Is it possible to let the buses move out at Sai 2 or ring road?
As there will be another new road along the southern railway, so
Every bus come in from sai 1 and then go out directly to the railway and new road
Then turn left to the main road, maybe the ring road (opposite to 'Chuan Chuen Village) or Sai 2 (19 Bus Terminal) and they can move along bigger flyover to Southern or Western Highway...like circle system.
It will be more comfortable for the traffic, than U-turning along Borommaratchachonnanee Road.

And next newer Southern Terminal should be at Samaedam or Bangbon (Rama II Rd.) as the SRT skytrain, not Wutthakat Rd (Talardplu Area).

Jromerz

15-08-06, 06:25 AM

Yappofloyd

20-08-06, 04:24 AM

Here are new pics of the construction for the new Southern Bus Terminal. I've quickly photoshopped some of the pics, so there might be a few misaligned lines .. sorry 'bout that :p
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jromerz/sets/72157594189381318/

Khun Jromerz, thank you very much for posting the pics. It really does seem to be coming along fast which is of course unusual for such projects. Will be interesting to see if they meet the OCt deadline. Let's hope that they do not ruch too much and do a sloppy job with finishings.

Wisarut

13-09-06, 01:49 PM

90% Done for Southern Bus terminal
Ready for Services by the end of Novemebr 2006
naew na - Septemebr 13, 2006

Now, Siri Project Construction Co.ltd. (contractor) has maded an annoucement that the new Southern Bus terminal on Pinklao - Nakhon Chaisri Highway (Talingchan) is 90% Done, ready for service by the ned of November 2006

This 2.2 billion Baht project of the new bus terminal will be on 37 Rai of land ... capable to handle 15000 intercity bus trips a day and 100000 passengers a day .... Thsi new Soutehrn bus terminal will have both gas and NGV station run by PTT ....

Jromerz

15-09-06, 10:11 PM

Yes, the building is coming along very quickly. The roofing is almost complete and they have installed escalators as well. Escalators are the type that trolleys can go on (like in Carrefour or Tesco Lotus) .. It is quite a large plot of land, and can be accessed from either Pinklao-Nakorn Chaisi (Borom Rachachonanee) or Puttamonthon Sai 1 roads. I will try to get some new pics soon to show the progress ..

So another huge project finished before the end of the year - includes the new airport and megabridge - the TRT men will definitely get some more support from these developments, just in time to get re-elected again

*...sigh...*

Jromerz

21-12-06, 09:40 PM

Well.. Now we are moving into 2007 and the Southern Bus terminal is incomplete - not much of a surprise for most of us ... So much for an October deadline ;)
Most of the building has been finished, now final touches are being put on, such as painting and completing the entrance area. Hopefully I can get some more photos to show the progress within the next couple weeks.:o

The Enforcer!

22-12-06, 09:52 AM

Excuse my confusion but is the NEW SBT on the same site as the old SBT?

The Enforcer!

Wisarut

22-12-06, 11:30 AM

Nope Not the Same Site ... the New Soutehrn Bus Terminal is very closed to Phutthamonthon Sai 1

The Enforcer!

22-12-06, 09:25 PM

Nope Not the Same Site ... the New Soutehrn Bus Terminal is very closed to Phutthamonthon Sai 1
Wow! That is miles away - what will happen to the old site?

Another condo?

The Enforcer!

Yappofloyd

24-12-06, 02:46 PM

The Enforcer!

25-12-06, 08:10 AM

Can I check my understanding as I was unaware of this. When completed (Feb 2007 or so) the Southern Bus Terminal will be in Puttamonthon Sai 1 which is on the outskirts of Bangkok.

Wow! Will they move the EBT to BITEC and the NBT/NEBT to Don Muang?

The Enforcer!

pong

25-12-06, 10:51 AM

passed by on nakorn Chaisri rd 3 times in the bus now, and was unable to see much of it.
last week, (forgot the date already) the usual PROTEST of sellers/vendors at old sai Thai (the higher rent, no custom, you know it) and BLOCKED traffic at current SaiThai for 1 hr or so, leading to ''rot thit'' traffic jam as far east as the Panthip plaza. Traffic on Ratchadamnen/Klang stood still for nearly 2 full hours. SaiThai (still named 'new' on signs...) looks very dilapidated and unkempt now. Asked at TAT for a possible date, but they were surprised to be asked this and did not appear to know anything about it- again those nasty farang that seem to know everything, thanks to this site and Khun Jromerz!
and for the last: Mochit 2 IF it moves at all, should better be placed in/near rangsit/if the new 'sky/whateevr train (on top of SRT to there fianlly, after 2100? runs.
Ekamai should be much better moved to current busterminal at Suvannapoom (I think dear Wisarut has even told this to be so) but then the gape between the linking train is anohter forced extra busride....

The Enforcer!

25-12-06, 12:05 PM

IGNORE POST - Too much Christmas Cheer!

pong

17-01-07, 05:28 PM

After I posted this, I asked at the bangkok Information office, beside the pinklao bridge near Thammasat,and they they knew about it, laughed a bit, and told me all was uncertain, and that they(due to otehrs asking) had foned to the BoKoSo and the Ministry and they had been told that no-one knew. Most likely some ''unwanted heritage'' of the Taksin-aspired projects, I think myself.Ditto when i asked a few days later at the current saiThai info-desk. Am now in a non-wintry Europe, no frost even, come back to krungThep next month.
And mr. Enforcer; the curent ''new'' SaiThai is /was also very much at the outer outskirts of BKK/city when it opened. And do you remember the desolate fields where the thriving Mochit2 is now?

Jromerz

29-01-07, 08:47 PM

Just passed by the almost completed Southern Bus terminal buildings this evening, there is a major food festival and carnival-type event going on in the grounds. I believe it is the Taling Chan food festival, or something to that effect. Talking to some taxi drivers recently, and they said that the terminal is supposed to be completed in time for Songkran this year. So maybe by April we will see a new Southern Bus Terminal in service.. lets see how that goes..

Jromerz

16-02-07, 11:27 PM

Finally had the opportunity to visit the site of the bus terminal and take some pics .. they can be viewed at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jromerz/sets/72157594189381318/

Security guard at site said he doesn't know the expected date of completion ;)

Jromerz

17-02-07, 12:17 PM

Just uploaded a new pic to the set - panoramic view of the building. Quickly photoshopped it so sorry for any mistakes...

The Enforcer!

19-02-07, 11:11 AM

So maybe by April we will see a new Southern Bus Terminal in service.. lets see how that goes..

I had a dream ....

1. The New SBT opens in April

2. Cracks are found in the parking bays and on the roads

3. The Government decides that the old SBT will re-open and allow the new SBT to close for repairs.

4. The Government now decides that the old SBT will only re-open for buses to Hua Hin -all other buses will use the new SBT whilst it is repaired.

5. The Government then decides that Bangkok is big enough for two SBTs so they will both be open

6. Bus companies say they boycott the old SBT

7. The Government decides the move will be voluntary and all odd hours services come from the new SBT and the even hour services from the old (except on Mondays)!

The Enforcer!

TGunner

19-02-07, 11:54 AM

I had a dream ....

1. The New SBT opens in April

2. Cracks are found in the parking bays and on the roads

3. The Government decides that the old SBT will re-open and allow the new SBT to close for repairs.

4. The Government now decides that the old SBT will only re-open for buses to Hua Hin -all other buses will use the new SBT whilst it is repaired.

5. The Government then decides that Bangkok is big enough for two SBTs so they will both be open

6. Bus companies say they boycott the old SBT

7. The Government decides the move will be voluntary and all odd hours services come from the new SBT and the even hour services from the old (except on Mondays)!

The Enforcer!

:D .................. :(

pong

23-04-07, 08:34 PM

Hello all+sawasdee, as I left BKK early march and have not seen any news re the new, newer SaiThai, is there any news? There were some firms ideas it would/could open well before the Songkran crush (BTW:did you get wet there?).
Or perhaps, bangtee, just another BKKpost/Nation news clip about a possible new date?

Wisarut

23-04-07, 11:09 PM

Yesterday, I passed that New bus terminal, It sill NOT FINISHED Yet ... despite of the New Look - with nearly finished structure :( This is a clear sign that the contractor ABANDONED their jobs ...

Jromerz

24-04-07, 11:11 PM

I'll once again try to get more pics in the next week to show how far they've come along (or not) with this project...

Wisarut

27-04-07, 10:12 AM

Now, Ijust got the Newsfrom Thairath (April 28, 2007) that this New SOuthern Bus terminal is about to be opened on May 1, 1007.

The Enforcer!

27-04-07, 01:03 PM

When it opens, how does sone get to it?

The Enforcer!

Wisarut

27-04-07, 01:29 PM

In suhc ascase, BMTA Aircon Bus 515 and BMTA Bus 549 will take you to the new Southern bus terminal near Talingchan Junction

Yappofloyd

05-05-07, 05:27 PM

Now, Ijust got the Newsfrom Thairath (April 28, 2007) that this New SOuthern Bus terminal is about to be opened on May 1, 1007.

Khun Wisarut, so has it opened yet? Fully operational or are we talking about a 'soft' opening?

Jromerz

05-05-07, 09:17 PM

Its definitely not operational yet.. they are still doing all the finishing touches on it.. No idea about the interior either..

Wisarut

08-05-07, 10:13 AM

Now, I got the news from Daiulynews that The New Southern Bus terminal will be opened in July 2007 since the commercial areas are nto done yet despite of the fact that 80% is done.

This terminam is private venture -> so Transportation Co.Ltd. may loss 10 million Baht revenue from the space leasing .... but save 100 milllion Baht from the construction of the new Southern bus terminal .... on 36 rai of land.

http://www.dailynews.co.th/web/html/popup_news/Default.aspx?Newsid=126575&NewsType=1&Template=1

Jromerz

17-05-07, 07:20 PM

8 nighttime pics of the front entrance of the terminal and sign, facing Borom Rachachonanee road, from this picture onwards in the set:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jromerz/501933485/in/set-72157594189381318/

More daytime pics coming soon

mdechgan

18-05-07, 11:49 AM

I think the construction is almost finished, but I don't see any buses yet.

What will happen to the old southern bus terminal? The old one causesd really bad traffic jams all the way to the Pin Klao/Charan flyover especially on Saturday evenings.

bkk_alien

27-05-07, 11:31 PM

I have been to the new terminal for today's official opening. however, there is NO bus service as of yet and the ceremony was to promote the shopping grounds on site.

the whole complex is chilled by air conditioning, very bright and has lots of space. there is a large food court but not a single dish is spelled out in english - thai only. loads of shops for souveniers, amulets, mobiles, shirt and coffee shops - all in a temporary thai arrangement like you see it at MBK.

what appears to be the taxi stand is protected by a roof, but it does not connect seamlessly to the buildings which might become an issue on a rainy day (as it was today).

as it wasnt finished yet its hard to say much about the info screens and displays but it looked like they put a lot of effort into it!

The Enforcer!

28-05-07, 04:11 PM

I have been to the new terminal for today's official opening. however, there is NO bus service

So the lights are on but no-one is at home, eh?

The Enforcer!

mdechgan

29-05-07, 11:29 AM

So the lights are on but no-one is at home, eh?

The Enforcer!

I drove by last night. The lights are sure on, but I did see a bus or two coming out of the station.

Still most of the buses still operate from the old terminal.

Does anyone know if the old terminal will be closed or will both of them be operating at the same time for awhile?

The Enforcer!

29-05-07, 03:53 PM

Does anyone know if the old terminal will be closed or will both of them be operating at the same time for awhile?

I refer to you to thread #34 on page 2.

The Enforcer!

ncr

29-05-07, 09:05 PM

The Enforcer saw it coming! :D

mdechgan

30-05-07, 11:46 AM

I refer to you to thread #34 on page 2.

The Enforcer!

Are there enough bathrooms in the terminal?

Is the arrival area big enough?

Will there be problems with taxis picking up customers infront of the door?

ncr

30-05-07, 02:33 PM

...is the floor slippery and many tiles cracked after 2 weeks of usage?

...do passengers have to take a shuttle bus to the public transportation center in order to catch a public bus or taxi?

... and will King Power Duty Free occupy all the hallways and departure platforms with their shops?

The Enforcer!

30-05-07, 06:21 PM

Are there enough bathrooms in the terminal?

Is the arrival area big enough?

Will there be problems with taxis picking up customers infront of the door?
...is the floor slippery and many tiles cracked after 2 weeks of usage?

...do passengers have to take a shuttle bus to the public transportation center in order to catch a public bus or taxi?

... and will King Power Duty Free occupy all the hallways and departure platforms with their shops?

Glad to see you understand!

The Enforcer!

Wisarut

01-06-07, 12:11 PM

Now, New SOuthern Bus terminal is waiting for the operating license from Land Transportation Dept ... which will be issued by the end of July 2007.

hamokhamok

04-06-07, 02:17 AM

1. Is it open yet ?
2. What bus will take me from the new airport to this bus terminal?
3. How much does it cost to get to Hua Hin ?
4. How long does it take to get to Hua Hin.

Thank you in advance.

Wisarut

04-06-07, 09:49 AM

Well, Transportation Co.Ltd. is watign for the License from Land Transportation Dept. ... to be published in Royal Garzette ... by the end of July 2007 ....

hamokhamok

04-06-07, 07:32 PM

Thanks very much for that information.

I won't be using it this trip then.

pong

06-06-07, 11:51 AM

to these questions: nothing really much will change:
1.nr 556 bus, wikll simply be extended a few kms on, like most of the citybuses now ending at saiThai, they wont even change the shields on.
2.same price, a slightly shorter trip Longer in citybus/taxi, shorter in countrybus)
and I guess if you use taxiemters, driver will also quickly adapt.

hamokhamok

06-06-07, 05:13 PM

Thanks Pong for that information.

I will have to decide when I get there as to what best suits me on the day because of jet lag etc.

Yappofloyd

18-06-07, 07:10 PM

Opening of southern bus terminal delayed until August AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK BKK Post 18/06/07

The opening of the new southern bus terminal in Taling Chan district has been delayed again until August as construction work is behind schedule, Wutthichart Kalayanamitr, acting manager of the state-run Transport Co, said yesterday. The original opening date of the new Bangkok terminal for southbound buses, which will replace the ageing bus station in Bangkok Noi, was set for the end of last year.

The constructor, Siri Project Construction, will be fined 0.01% of 300 million baht, the cost for the terminal construction, for the delay, he said. The firm had earlier sought a 120-day extension for the work. Construction of the main structure has finished but final details still need to be completed, he said. Transport Co and traffic police will now jointly work out a system to manage bus services coming into and out of the terminal before it starts serving passengers in August, said Mr Wutthichart.

The new terminal project is a profit-sharing contract between Siri Project Construction Co and Transport Co. Under the 20-year contract signed on May 9, 2005, the private firm agreed to pay for all construction costs, including land purchase, while Transport Co is responsible for expenses related to public facilities covering some 900 square metres. The transport firm will collect rental fees for the use of the terminal and share its income with the construction firm. Under the contract, Transport Co must give 75% of all income to the firm during the first 10 years of operations, and 50% after that.

Mr Wutthichart said Transport Co had the right to use the terminal for 20 years. The contract states that the use of the terminal by the state firm would end after construction of a southern transport centre megaproject is completed. However, as the other project has already been scrapped, it was up to the government to decide whether it would find a new site for Transport Co to use as a new transport centre, he said. Most bus terminals including Mor Chit terminal and the current southern terminal are on rental plots, he said.

The new southern bus terminal is built on 36 rai of land on Baromratchonnaree road. It costs 300 million baht to build and is expected to serve about 50,000 passengers a day during regular periods and up to 100,000 a day during holidays.

Yappofloyd

19-06-07, 03:37 PM

I find it amazing that just before the new terminal is due to open, that concerns are being raised about traffic management problems and Min Transport is suggesting new overpasses etc. Even a new site Surely this should have all been worked out during the planning of the site?:confused:
Actually given the way these things are generally done then I guess I am not so surprised.:eek:

TRANSPORT / NEW SOUTHERN BUS TERMINAL
Theera: Traffic woes will worsen AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK BKK Post 19/06/07

The new southern bus terminal to be opened on Pin Klao-Nakhon Chaisi road in September will not work over the long term as it may worsen traffic problems, according to the transport minister who is looking for a new location. Inspecting the construction site yesterday, Adm Theera Haocharoen said the terminal would cause heavy traffic congestion on the road, which had only two lanes in either direction. A passenger bus would have to use both lanes when turning in front of the bus terminal, he said. "I am worried that traffic will be chaotic when the bus terminal is opened. The area is not suitable as a long-term transport centre. It can function only as a temporary facility," said the minister.

He told officials to widen the already congested Pin Klao-Nakhon Chaisi road in front of the new bus terminal, and build U-turn flyovers nearby and ramps to connect with the terminal. As a long-term solution, he suggested the terminal be moved to a new location, possibly the area the Transport Ministry earlier designated as the Taksin multi-modal transport hub.

The Taksin hub on Ratchaphruek road was designed as the convergence point for electric railways, city buses and inter-provincial buses but the ousted government shelved the project due to opposition from local people whose properties would have been expropriated. Adm Theera said the project could be adjusted to heed the concerns of affected residents or it might be relocated. The terminal is located some five kilometres from the present southern bus terminal in the Bangkok Noi area.

Siri Project Construction Co won the concession from the state-owned Transport Co to develop the new terminal on its 37-rai land plot and receive revenue sharing from the operations of the bus terminal and benefits from a commercial complex in the compound for 20 years. The company will pay for the construction of the 300-million-baht bus terminal and invest some two billion baht in the commercial complex. Wutthichart Kalayanamitr, acting manager of Transport Co, said the terminal would open in mid-September.

Songsak Phaecharoen, director-general of the Highways Department, suggested the Transport Co widen the entrance of the new terminal to allow passenger buses to turn in and out. Pol Maj-Gen Chisanupong Yuktathat, chief of Bangkok Division 7, said departing buses should use the back exit of the new terminal adjacent to Phutthamonthon Sai 1 road to minimise the impact on Pin Klao-Nakhon Chaisi road.

Wisarut

19-07-07, 11:18 AM

Latest News - It will be opened by the end of September 2007 ....
This delay is due to the instllation fo travellators, and elevators for the handicapped ...

REF: Dailynews - 19 July 2007

Wisarut

10-08-07, 12:33 PM

Now, Transportation CoLtd is runnign the testrun of New Southern Bus Terminal at Chimplee ... ONLY for outbound intercity buses

http://www.dailynews.co.th/web/html/popup_news/Default.aspx?Newsid=136284&NewsType=1&Template=1

The Enforcer!

10-08-07, 12:48 PM

So they arrive at Mor Chit I and depart from Mor Chit II.

Sounds fun!

The Enforcer!

mdechgan

10-08-07, 02:41 PM

I drive by terminal often and as far as I can see all they are testing are the lights.

There was an opening ceremony if I remember correctly a few months ago.

I still can see how the buses will arrive at the terminal. I don't see a single overpass. Buses arriving from the south have to make a u turn to get into the terminal. The nearest u turn is under a bridge that crosses a canal across from the Taling Chan police station near the Shell gas station but the height clearance is way too low for those double decker VIP buses. What I can see is that they have to make a left on Phutthamonthon Sai 1 road, then u-turn, then back up the Sai 1 overpass and make a right back on Borom Road.

Traffic is still going to be a bitch same as the old station where buses have to u-turn near the Charan-Pin Klao overpass where straffic is at a halt especially with the Major Cineplex traffic combined. Fridays and Saturdays are not looking to bright for the taling Chan area.

They should have made an overpass especially for buses into and out of the terminal. But of course this is Thailand we are talking about and little things such as traffic managment are trivial as lack of bathrooms, taxiways, cracked runways, and small arrival area.

Wisarut

21-08-07, 01:16 PM

Now, BMTA has been approved to readjust the bus routes to reach the New Southern Bus terminal

1. BMTA No. 28
Old: Mochit 2 - Southern Bus terminal
New: Mochit 2 - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

2. BMTA No. 30
Old: [Circle] Nonthaburi - Southern Bus terminal
New: [Circle] Nonthaburi - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

3. BMTA No. 40
Old: Lam Salee market - Southern Bus terminal
New: Lam Salee Market Ram Khamhaeng - Rama 9 Road - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

4. BMTA No. 66
Old: Prachanivet 2 (Samaggi Road) - Southern Bus terminal
New: Prachanivet 2 (Samaggi Road) - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

5. BMTA Aircon No. 507
Old: Pak Nam - Southern Bus terminal
New: Pak Nam - Rama 4 Road - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal and Pak Nam - Rama 4 Road - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal (Expressway)

6. BMTA Aircon No. 511
Old: Pak Nam- Southern Bus terminal
New: Pak Nam - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

7. BMTA Aircon No. 524
Old: Lak Si - Southern Bus terminal
New: Lak Si - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

8. BMTA Aircon Airport Bus No. 556
Old: Suvannabhum - Southern Bus terminal
New: Suvannabhum - Talingchan Southern Bus terminal

REF: http://www.dailynews.co.th/web/html/popup_news/Default.aspx?Newsid=137360&NewsType=1&Template=1

mdechgan

21-08-07, 02:32 PM

So the new southern bus terminal is temporary and should be moved a few kilometers to the Ratchapisek road?

The terminal has even been opened yet and it is already obsolete and causing too much traffic?

I knew there would be traffic problems but the city's infrastructure is just ridiculous. A flyover will cost about 400 million baht. The pillars alone cost something like 20 million per pillar.

pong

22-08-07, 06:21 PM

ANYthing in BKK is temporary, as is the current (new) SaiThai.
The list of dear khun Wisarut means that:
1.nr 524 is to be extended FROm its current Sanam Luang terminus onward west
2.the 556 apparently is still running (which I queried in up till now unanswered question above).
And the new-new Sai Thai is NOt on ratcha-rd, but on the westward extension (should have the official name somewehre listed in top here), Borom na---road. Thats the big main road, west of the Klong, some 4-5 kms further west, near the intersection with (also quite new, sai 1). in fact there are mnay more other BMTA-busroyutes already going out that far/passing by, like the 516 from Vict. Monument, the 123 from Sanam Luang, the 124/125 from SamSen Stations.

Wisarut

22-08-07, 06:29 PM

The list of dear khun Wisarut means that:
1.nr 524 is to be extended FROm its current Sanam Luang terminus onward west
2.the 556 apparently is still running (which I queried in up till now unanswered question above).
And the new-new Sai Thai is NOt on ratcha-rd, but on the westward extension (should have the official name somewehre listed in top here), Borom na---road. Thats the big main road, west of the Klong, some 4-5 kms further west, near the intersection with (also quite new, sai 1). in fact there are many more other BMTA-bus routes already going out that far/passing by, like the 516 from Vict. Monument, the 123 from Sanam Luang, the 124/125 from SamSen Stations.

The New SOuthern Bus terminal is near the Intersection between Bormmaraj Chonnanee and Phutthamonthon Sai 1

Jromerz

23-08-07, 02:33 AM

For the first time I saw a tour bus leaving the terminal .. Bangkok - Nakorn Sri Thammarat - Pakkpayoon (Pattalung) .. So does that mean that some buses are actually using the terminal??

doseiai

01-10-07, 02:22 PM

Hmm...my guess is...its october now still not open rite?

Can anyone guess how long it will take to get there from Bangkok side of the river? Obviously the traffic jam will be a factor...but I'm not familiar with that area.

Thrilled its new ;) , not thrilled it takes longer to get to :( ...oh well i guess u cant always win.

Wisarut

11-10-07, 05:52 PM

mdechgan

12-10-07, 01:02 PM

When will all the buses be moved to the new location while the old one is to be closed down? Traffic is getting really heavy in the Taling Chan area especially friday and sunday nights.

Say does anyone know what will be opening at the old Merry King building next to Central PK? There is a lot of construction going on.

Is it to be a Lotus or Carrefour?

Wisarut

12-10-07, 01:34 PM

Yappofloyd

12-10-07, 03:36 PM

Now, the latest news abotu the New Soutehrn bus terminal is:

1) Soft Opening for intercity buses form BKK to Chumporn and beyond on 1 November 2007

2) Soft Opening for intercity buses form BKK to cities between Nakhon Pathom and Chumporn on 15 November 2007

3) Official Opening Ceremony on 3 December 2007

REF: Manager Daily & Thairath (11 Ocotober 2007)

So an expected opening for the end of 2006 becomes August 2007 which ends up being early Dec (maybe) 2007. I guess this is what we have come to expected with transport related projects.:o

pong

09-11-07, 12:14 PM

yes, thats what A BoKoSo leafle also told me+ the tourist office.
Thus: all buses due from new new sai Thai, 15/11.
official opening probably after they have discovered ''no cracks'' or corrupted shops/whatever?

pong

12-12-07, 08:48 AM

visit to old(ws mai) and new-new Sai Thai, on 11/12/07.
1.starting from BangLamPhu, I choose route 30. This ended at their depot just before the old Sai Thai, I +some others were put off, and that was it. NO onward bus provided. So while being there anyway, I checked the now old SaiThai and discovered:
a.that some 5-6 routes, like the very frequent 997 to Nakorn Pathom, STILL start from old Sai Thai. Also 2nd. class 81 to Kanchanaburi. There were still afair lot of all-blue 1xt, class coaches parked, apparently on lay-over though.
b.that I would need to pay a new fare to get to new Sai Thai, choose route 123 and was charegd 8,5 bt- another illegal farehike by some ''rot ruam''.
This route stopped in the bays adjacent to the new terminal. Went in and saw nothing new.(well, its all new, but already described here). Got asked in both thai and anglit at least 6 times ''where you go'' (I did NOT want to go anywhere now), untill reaching the ticketing boothes. Plenty of safety guards. Boothes, other as old SaiThai much more clearly marked with destinations served in anglish. HARD to discover difference between the prestigious 999 Rot tur and the humble 2nd. class buses- all in orange. On 3d floor a big and well-kept food-court, NOTHING in anglit, after all farang who come that far must know enough of the local language, nah?
Saw that entrance to platforms, at least for now, is strictly controlled and they even have luggage-screening machines, not used though. Screens show departures, but were not inline with time and had that old-confusing divion between 48/40/32 seats -as if someone unused to thai buses would even comprehend that. SOME boothes also have a complete dep.list, most not though. In China, were I was a week or so ago, you can always check ALL departures.
Saw from a window that also BoKoSo route 35 is new here: to RANONG, apparently via newly opened southern ringway, and MapThaPut. Route 48 direct to Pattaya already was in the now old SaiThai.
Then went around looking for the BMTA-citybus stands. Saw the 10+ set-down quays at left-hand side. After asking around was pointed to citybuses, which are after taxi's and minivans.
Stood/watched for around 1 hr. Seemed to me the nr. of actual departures out of the busstation here was far lower as from old saiThai- but then the 997 and 81 have some 10 trips/hour alone.
As far as citybuses; ONLY the 28 (rot ruam) and 511 were reasonable freqeunt. NO white artic buses seen on 511 though. On 66 only AC-buses, no red normal. Saw in 1 hr 2 arrivals on 507 and NO set-off. Even though the stands also list routes 524, 30, 79, these did NOT materialise at all, 79 passes by on main road. Bus 556 to Swampy has already been taken over by minivans, that run maybe hourly- but you never know when.

Wisarut

02-01-08, 01:37 PM

Now, I just has been to New Southern Bus terminal ... aftyer a logn trip from Chumporn to BKK ... taking about 9 hours due to traffic jam at Phetburi (from Ban Lad to Khao Yoy) ....

It looks quite good .... and there is a parking lot for aircon vans and taxi ... but this parking lot for aircon van and taxi will be closed from 11 PM to 5 AM for security reasons.

Jromerz

02-01-08, 03:20 PM

Yes, the new terminal is MUCH better than the Sai Tai Mai at Pinklao. The move has reduced congestion all along Pinklao. The new terminal is more spacious and so much cleaner for sure! Security also seems to be more systematic in that there are several cameras located throughout the complex and also only passengers and authorized personnel are able to get to the gates. The guards seem to be enforcing this quite well. There's a large commercial area and food court, looks like more is going to be developed in the main terminal.
On the downside it has started to bring more traffic to the area, especially during peak hours, though only in the 2 outer lanes of Borom Rachachonanee adjacent to the terminal.

gwmss15

12-02-08, 12:46 AM

On Sunday afternoon I took a ride out to see the new southern bus terminal. This terminal is for most intercity buses head to the west and south of Bangkok. Some of the destinations include: Nakhon Pathom, Hua Hin, Phuket, Yala and Hat Yai. This new terminal is about 10 km further out of Bangkok to the west of the old bus terminal at Pink Lao. This is the not the 1st time that this terminal has been moved. The new southern bus terminal opened in December 2007.

This terminal is much bigger than the old one thus has much more space. I estimate it to be about half the size of the mega Mochit 2 bus terminal. However, this terminal is built partly like an airport and partly like a shopping centre. Inside the terminal there are restaurants and shops that include KFC, chemist and a few banks. There are hundreds of ticket counters one for each route and each class of bus.

This is a movie taken in the bus area of the new southern bus terminal. It shows the general view plus some double deck intercity buses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eg372oq4xs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eg372oq4xs

1. This is a picture of the city bus stop outside the front of the new bus terminal.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000707a.jpg

2. This is a general view of the air-conditioned waiting/ticketing area of the bus terminal. This same floor has the shopping center and banks.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000712a.jpg

3. This is an image of the 2nd and 3rd class bus ticket counters.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000709a.jpg

4. This is an image of the 1st and VIP class bus ticket counters.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000710a.jpg

5. This is the only place in Thailand that has electronic bus departure screens that show the next bus out. The code section is the bus route number. Route that has 63 uses an old number as most intercity routes are now 9XX numbers.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000711a.jpg

6. This is an image of the bus level waiting area. This is outdoors so it can get quite hot. There are about 90 bus platforms at this new bus terminal.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000721a.jpg

7. This shows the general view from the roadway between the main platforms (1-75) and the extension platforms (76 – 90). There is a lot more space than the old terminal plus this terminal has concrete roadways not dirt.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000737a.jpg

This next section shows a series of different intercity buses that use the terminal. I don’t know a lot about the types and models of these buses. If anyone does know them please post a comment stating what type of bus it is with the picture number. Note: All buses shown are air conditioned some better than others.

8. This is a picture of a 1st class bus to Narathiwat in the deep south of Thailand. Also a lot of these buses carry parcels traffic as well as passengers. (2+2 seating)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000714a.jpg

9. This is a 1st class Scania double deck intercity bus heading to Yala and the Malaysian border in the south of Thailand. (2+2 seating)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000717a.jpg

10. This is a 1st class single deck intercity bus to Danchang in the south. Make unknown. (2+2 seating)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000718a.jpg

I hope you find the pictures and vehicles shown to be of interest if you view this please post some comments and feelings about the pictures.

gwmss15

12-02-08, 12:47 AM

11. This is a 1st class semi double deck intercity bus to Phuket. Make unknown. (2+2 seating)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000719a.jpg

12. This is a 32 seat VIP semi double deck intercity bus to Hat Yai and Dannok in the deep south. This bus is operated by a private company as shown by the yellow stripe. The seating of this bus is (1+2). Make unknown.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000720a.jpg

13. This is a Scania VIP double deck intercity bus to Hat Yai. This bus has 2+2 seating. This is also operated by a private company.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000722a.jpg

14. This is an older Merc single deck 2nd class intercity bus used on shorter trips. This bus operates on intercity route 69.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000723a.jpg

15. This is a group of older 2nd class intercity buses using the extension platforms as a bus layover. Most of the bus types are unknown.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000724a.jpg

16. This is a group of 1st class intercity buses on the main terminal side under the link bridge. One of these routes goes to Ratchaburi about 2 to 3 hours away. Most of the bus types are unknown.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000726a.jpg

17. This is a side view of an older Merc 2nd class intercity bus heading to Kanchaburi in the west. Bus number (second class) 81-11.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000727a.jpg

18. This is the driver’s cab of a Scania double deck intercity bus.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000728a.jpg

19. This is the interior of a scania double deck intercity bus. Note: this is a VIP bus with 2+2 seating. The blue towels are to keep you warm on the long 16 hour trip to hat yai.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000729a.jpg

20. This is a rear shot of the semi double deck and double deck Scania buses. They appear the same height but one is shorter.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000731a.jpg

gwmss15

12-02-08, 12:48 AM

21. This is a shot of an older 2nd class intercity bus to Prachap Khri khan. The driver had opened up all the doors and panels for ventilation.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000733a.jpg

22. This is an inside shot of the same 2nd class bus.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000735a.jpg

23. This is a merc O404 2nd class intercity bus. Heading to Phanganga in the south.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000736a.jpg

This next section of images where taken on the way back from southern bus terminal.

24. This is a poor quality image of one of the new yellow city buses operated by “BMTA” and “City Bus” I just spotted it as it was driving off from the city bus terminal in front of the southern bus terminal.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/Thaitransit/Bangkok%20Buses/P1000739a.jpg

25. This is another new yellow city bus heading into the city on the other side of the main road taken at southern bus terminal. Both this bus and the one before operate on Route 539: Om Yai to Victory Monument. This is not a good image of it. These yellow buses are very well air conditioned and have a lower floor than normal buses but it still has one step inside the door.

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26. This is a Route 127: Bang Bua Thong to Arun Amarin Bridge. Bus Number 127-19. This is an old merc non aircond bus. Taken at the southern bus terminal this bus is heading to Bang Bua Thong. Note: Behind this bus is Route 146 the bus I took home.

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